Archimedes principle vs Atwood's principle

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The forum discussion centers on the differences between Archimedes' principle and Atwood's principle in the context of buoyancy and acceleration. A sphere with a volume of 0.4 m³ and a mass of 100 kg experiences a buoyant force of 4000 N according to Archimedes' principle, resulting in an acceleration of 40 m/s². In contrast, the Atwood principle suggests a buoyant force of approximately 1600 N, leading to an acceleration of 16 m/s². The discussion highlights confusion surrounding the definitions of "buoyancy force" and "dynamic buoyancy force," and critiques the validity of the Atwood principle as presented in a Wikipedia article.

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  • #31
cjl said:
I'm not even convinced that that result is correct.
I didn't say so. I said that you cannot justify an equation even if it has some correct partial result.
So, I agree with your withholding of judgment.
 
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  • #32
abdo799 said:
I read the talk page about the atwood's machine , he is saying that this concept puts in consideration the inertia of the moving fluid that replaces the volume of the object .
That is just the standard drag in a medium. It will not correspond to anything you can calculate with that Atwood approach.
The acceleration of objects in water can exceed g.
 
  • #33
mfb said:
That is just the standard drag in a medium. It will not correspond to anything you can calculate with that Atwood approach.
The acceleration of objects in water can exceed g.

I know, i searched about this atwood thing in a textbook, found nothing
 

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