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The discussion revolves around a problem involving Archimedes' principle, specifically focusing on a solid sphere in a tank that is accelerating upward. The participants are tasked with calculating the tension in a string holding the sphere and determining the sphere's acceleration if the string breaks.

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  • Participants explore the effects of an accelerating frame of reference on the perceived weight of the sphere and the buoyant force acting on it. There are attempts to relate the forces involved, including gravitational and buoyant forces, to the tension in the string.

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Some participants have provided guidance on using the accelerating frame of reference to analyze the problem. There are ongoing discussions about the correct calculation of the buoyant force and the implications of the tank's acceleration on the forces acting on the sphere.

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Participants are working under the constraints of a homework assignment, which includes specific parameters such as mass, specific gravity, and acceleration. There is an acknowledgment of potential misunderstandings in the calculations related to buoyant force.

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Homework Statement



A solid sphere of mass m=2 kilogram and specific gravity s=0.5 is held stationary to a tank as shown in figure. The tank is accelerating upward with a=2ms-2. calculate the tension in the string? If suddenly string break then the acceleration of the ball in frame of tank.

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Archimedes principle

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see in attachment.
for second question. My answer is
net force =B-mg=20 so acceleration in frame of ground is 10. In frame it should 10-2=8.
 

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vkash said:

Homework Statement



A solid sphere of mass m=2 kilogram and specific gravity s=0.5 is held stationary to a tank as shown in figure. The tank is accelerating upward with a=2ms-2. calculate the tension in the string.

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Archimedes principle

The Attempt at a Solution


see in attachment.

Hi Vkash,
What is your question?

ehild
 
ehild said:
Hi Vkash,
What is your question?

ehild
A solid sphere of mass m=2 kilogram and specific gravity s=0.5 is held stationary to a tank as shown in figure. The tank is accelerating upward with a=2ms-2.
(1) calculate the tension in the string?
(2) If suddenly string break then the acceleration of the ball in frame of tank?
I have tried to answer these questions. Where am i wrong.
 
The problem is easiest to solve if you use the accelerating frame of reference, fixed to the tank. Have you learned about accelerating frames of reference? You feel heavier in a lift which accelerates upward as if the gravitational acceleration g would be bigger. And you feel lighter in a frame of reference accelerating downward. In a falling lift you are weightless.

Buoyant force arises because of the weight of the liquid. In a falling tank, there would be no buoyant force. You could immerse any object into the liquid, it would stay at the same place.
This tank accelerates upward with a=2 m/s^2. Everything feels heavier, as if the gravitational constant would be g'=g+2 instead of 10 m/s^2. Even the buoyant force will be larger than in the tank in rest.

Can you proceed?


ehild
 
ehild said:
The problem is easiest to solve if you use the accelerating frame of reference, fixed to the tank. Have you learned about accelerating frames of reference? You feel heavier in a lift which accelerates upward as if the gravitational acceleration g would be bigger. And you feel lighter in a frame of reference accelerating downward. In a falling lift you are weightless.

Buoyant force arises because of the weight of the liquid. In a falling tank, there would be no buoyant force. You could immerse any object into the liquid, it would stay at the same place.
This tank accelerates upward with a=2 m/s^2. Everything feels heavier, as if the gravitational constant would be g'=g+2 instead of 10 m/s^2. Even the buoyant force will be larger than in the tank in rest.

Can you proceed?


ehild

yes i have read this in starting mechanics.(working with non inertial frame of reference)
In your way.
B=M(g+a)+T
Is it correct?

if string is snapped.
B-m(g+a)=ma'
answer of second question.
 
I hope It will be OK if you calculate the buoyant force correctly.

ehild
 
ehild said:
I hope It will be OK if you calculate the buoyant force correctly.

ehild

volume of ball is 2/500=4*10-3
B=(4*10-3)*(10)*(1000)
here i did it wrong.
It should B=(4*10-3)*(10+2)*(1000)
thanks ehild. I got the mistake.
 
Well done!

ehild
 

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