Are All Eigenvalues of a Matrix Between Defined Limits?

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The discussion revolves around the properties of symmetric matrices and their eigenvalues, specifically focusing on the conditions under which a matrix is positive or negative definite. The original poster presents a problem involving a symmetric matrix and seeks to understand the relationship between its eigenvalues and certain scalar values.

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  • Participants explore the implications of symmetry in matrices and the conditions for positive definiteness. There are attempts to clarify how to prove that all eigenvalues of a given matrix fall within specific bounds. Questions arise regarding the application of eigenvalue definitions and the relationship between the eigenvalues of the matrix and the modified matrix A-λI.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, offering hints and discussing the implications of their reasoning. There is recognition of the need to establish conditions on the eigenvalues of the matrix to support the claims being made. Some participants express uncertainty about applying the concepts, while others provide guidance on the relationships between eigenvalues.

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The original poster is working within the constraints of a homework assignment, which may limit the information they can use or the methods they can apply. There is an emphasis on proving properties of the matrix without directly providing solutions.

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[SOLVED] Positive Definite Matrices

Homework Statement



a) If A is Symmetric show that A-λI is positive definite if and only if all eigenvalues of A are >λ, and A-λI is negative definite if and only if all eigenvalues of A are <λ.

b) Use this result to show that all the eigenvalues of
[ 5 2 -1 0]
[ 2 5 0 1]
[-1 0 5 -2]
[ 0 1 -2 5]
are between zero and eight.



Homework Equations



If all eigenvalues of A>0, A is positive definite.


The Attempt at a Solution



i'm not sure where to start
 
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here's a hint: since A is symmetric, you can get a set of eigenvectors of A which are an orthonormal basis for the vector space.
 
hmm... i understand what you are saying, but I'm not sure how to apply it. My main problem is with proving part a.
 
to show that a matrix M is positive definite, it is sufficient to show that v^T M v > 0 for any vector v in an orthonormal basis. since you can get such a basis with eigenvectors of A, you just need to show that for any eigenvector v of A, v^T (A-λI) v > 0. remember that you know how A acts on eigenvectors.
 
angelz429 said:
hmm... i understand what you are saying, but I'm not sure how to apply it. My main problem is with proving part a.

How would you find the eigenvalues of A-lambda*I? How would you find the eigenvalues of A for that matter?
 
Dick said:
How would you find the eigenvalues of A-lambda*I? How would you find the eigenvalues of A for that matter?

like any other eigenvalue i suppose do det((A-lambda*I)-alpha*I)=0 and solve for alpha.
 
Right. So when you do that alpha is an eigenvalue of A-lambda*I. Do you see that makes (lambda+alpha) an eigenvalue of A? So what's the relation between the eigenvalues of A and those of A-lambda*I?
 
ok, so det(A-lambda*I-alpha*I) implies det (A-alpha*lamba*I) therefore alpha is an eigenvlaue od A-lambda*I and alpha*lambda is an eigenvalue of A.

But what does this say about the relationship between alpha and lambda? I'm supposed to see that if alpha > lambda A is positive definite & is alpha < lambda A is negative definite.

If alpha > lambda, alpha*lambda > lambda
If alpha < lambda, alpha*lambda can be < lambda

That's all I can see. How does this show that all alpha*lambda> 0 or alpha*lambda<0?
 
det(A-lambda*I-alpha*I)=det(A-(lambda+alpha)*I). '+', not '*'! If alpha+lambda is an eigenvalue of A when alpha is an eigenvalue A-lambda*I, I would say that the eigenvalues of A-lambda*I are obtained by subtracting lambda from the eigenvalues of A. Wouldn't you agree??
 
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oh riiiight! Thanks!... but how can we guarantee that alpha + lambda is > 0?
 
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errr i mean that alpha - lambda is > 0
 
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angelz429 said:
errr i mean that alpha - lambda is > 0

You'd better put some conditions on the eigenvalues of A. Look at what you are trying to prove.
 
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Alright, so I understand the first part... now how do I use this to show that all the eigenvalues of B are between zero & eight? I just checked that B is positive definite...
 
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ahhh nevermind... i got it!
 
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Thanks!
 

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