Are All Manifolds Triangulable?

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The discussion centers on the triangulability of manifolds, particularly focusing on the differences in claims made by various texts regarding dimensions 3, 4, and higher. The conversation explores theoretical implications and definitions related to triangulation in topology and differential topology.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants note that Lee's text states every manifold of dimension 3 or below is triangulable, while dimension 4 has known examples of non-triangulable manifolds, and the status for dimensions greater than four remains unknown.
  • Others suggest that Bott and Tu's assertion that every manifold admits a triangulation may refer specifically to smooth manifolds, as their work focuses on differential topology.
  • One participant proposes that the differing claims may stem from varying definitions of triangulation, particularly regarding whether every interval isomorphic to some interval in R^n is triangulable.
  • A reference to Kirby and Siebenmann's work is made, indicating it contains an example of a non-triangulable 6-manifold.
  • Another participant emphasizes that the answer may indeed depend on the definition of triangulation and suggests consulting historical texts on topology for further insight.
  • It is mentioned that Whitehead's theorem asserts that every smooth manifold has a smooth triangulation, indicating a potential distinction in the types of manifolds being discussed.

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Participants express disagreement regarding the claims made by different authors about triangulability, with no consensus reached on the definitions or implications of triangulation across different dimensions.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights the potential limitations in definitions of triangulation and the implications of those definitions on the claims made by various authors. There are unresolved questions regarding the status of triangulability in higher dimensions and the specific contexts in which different theorems apply.

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In Lee's Intro to topological manifolds, p.105, it is written that every manifold of dimension 3 or below is triangulable. But in dimension 4, threre are known examples of non triangulable manifolds. In dimensions greater than four, the answer is unknown.

But in Bott-Tu p.190, it is written that every manifold admits a triangulation.

Which is right?
 
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quasar987 said:
In Lee's Intro to topological manifolds, p.105, it is written that every manifold of dimension 3 or below is triangulable. But in dimension 4, threre are known examples of non triangulable manifolds. In dimensions greater than four, the answer is unknown.

But in Bott-Tu p.190, it is written that every manifold admits a triangulation.

Which is right?

I would guess that Bott and Tu mean every smooth manifold since their book is about differential topology. It is a theorem of Whitehead, I believe, that every smooth manifold has a smooth triangulation.
 
It seems that the authors probably have different definitions of triangulation.
In my opinion, the problem boils down to whether every interval isomorphic to some interval in R^n is triangulable & hence the second statement looks good.
 
quasar987 said:
In Lee's Intro to topological manifolds, p.105, it is written that every manifold of dimension 3 or below is triangulable. But in dimension 4, threre are known examples of non triangulable manifolds. In dimensions greater than four, the answer is unknown.

But in Bott-Tu p.190, it is written that every manifold admits a triangulation.

Which is right?

R. ]Kirby and L. C. Siebenmann, On the triangulation of manifolds and the hauptvermutung,
Bull. Amer. Math. Soc., 75 (1969), 742-749.

This paper is said to have an example of a non-triangulable 6 manifold
 
lavinia said:
I would guess that Bott and Tu mean every smooth manifold since their book is about differential topology. It is a theorem of Whitehead, I believe, that every smooth manifold has a smooth triangulation.

In Whitney's geometric integration p.124, he credits S.S. Cains (1934) with Whitehead (1940) giving an improvement of the proof in "On C¹ complexes, Annals of Math. 41"
 

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