Are Definite Integrals and Area Calculations Performed Similarly?

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The discussion revolves around the relationship between definite integrals and area calculations, particularly in cases where functions cross the x-axis. The original poster seeks clarification on whether the same approach applies to both finding areas and evaluating definite integrals, especially when dealing with regions above and below the x-axis.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Problem interpretation

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  • The original poster attempts to understand if the methods for finding area and evaluating definite integrals differ, particularly when functions are bounded above and below the x-axis. They question the necessity of using absolute values and splitting the integrals based on the function's behavior.

Discussion Status

Some participants suggest that the original poster's approach of splitting the integrals and taking absolute values for area calculations is correct. Others clarify that the two directions are separate tasks, with one focusing on setting up integrals and the other on evaluating them, but there is no explicit consensus on the best approach for each direction.

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The discussion references a set of problems with distinct directions for area calculations and definite integral evaluations, indicating a structured homework assignment with specific requirements for each section.

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ok, my question involves two different sets of directions ..

1. Use integration to find the area of each shaded region.
2. Evaluate each definite integral.

Ok, my question is this... do i do the same thing for both of these directions? ..

Even further... say I have a function that goes over and under the x-axis.. and I'm asked to find the area when the function is bounded in such a way that the area would be both over and under the x-axis... For direction #1, i would find the zeros of the function and use the fundamental theorem of calculus and do each part separately.. taking the absolute value of each.. and adding the two areas together.. ok.. i got that.. but for #2.. do i do the same thing? or would i just apply the fundamental theorem of calculus without absolute values and without finding zeros?

A good example would be:
http://img400.imageshack.us/img400/6026/integralquestion7ht.gif

Is this done correctly? or would i still do any absolute value or splitting into regions with direction #2?

If I'm correct.. Direction #2 can have negative values or even 0, and direction #1 will always have positive values?

Please clarify all this someone.. thanks.
 
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I believe that the question is just asking you to set up two different integrals for the region -1 to 1... For this, you'd have to split it up into two pieces, as you did, and solve.

So direction one I think is asking you to just figure out and set up the integrals.

Direction two is asking you to solve, I believe. But what you did first was correct, I believe.
 
well, thing is.. it's not two different directions for the same problem.. i just used that example as.. an example lol... they have one whole section of about 10 problems with the 1st direction.. then they have another 10 problems asking to be solved using the 2nd direction..

it's not both for each problem
 
Jacobpm64 said:
well, thing is.. it's not two different directions for the same problem.. i just used that example as.. an example lol... they have one whole section of about 10 problems with the 1st direction.. then they have another 10 problems asking to be solved using the 2nd direction..

it's not both for each problem

I think you have the right idea, for the first part you need to split the integrals into parts that are either above or below the x-axis and then find the integral of each part, taking the opposite of the negative ones and then adding them. For the second part it would just be to evaluate the definite integral which could en up being positive, negative, or zero.
 
thanks for the clarification
 

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