Are Maxwell's equations theoretically sound?

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The discussion revolves around the theoretical soundness of Maxwell's equations and their ability to describe electromagnetism. Participants explore concepts related to electric and magnetic fields, the nature of light, and the historical context of these equations.

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  • Some participants question whether Maxwell's equations completely describe electromagnetism, suggesting that quantum electrodynamics provides a more comprehensive framework.
  • There is a contention regarding the unification of electricity and magnetism, with some asserting that it is an established fact while others maintain that unification is not necessary.
  • Concerns are raised about the understanding of magnetism, with some arguing it is well understood while others express confusion about its nature.
  • Participants note that numerous experiments support the theory of light as an electromagnetic wave, indicating that Maxwell's equations effectively describe light behavior.
  • There is a historical discussion about the timeline of Maxwell's work and the discovery of electrons, with some participants asserting that Maxwell could not have formulated his equations without knowledge of electrons.

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The discussion features multiple competing views, particularly regarding the completeness of Maxwell's equations and the necessity of unification between electricity and magnetism. There is no consensus on these issues.

Contextual Notes

Participants express differing opinions on the historical context of Maxwell's equations and their relationship to the discovery of electrons, highlighting potential misunderstandings about the timeline of scientific discoveries.

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are maxwells equations theoretically accurate?
do they describe electromagnetism?

its basically a series of differential equations for describing the electric, and magnetic fields.
including particle motion and the field it creates?

the electric field makes a lot of sense. but what is magnetism?
why is it so elusive?

why do we consider light similar to an electric field?
why would we unify? i say we don't unify.
 
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Xilus said:
do they describe electromagnetism?
Not completely, that is why we developed quantum electrodynamics.

Xilus said:
why would we unify? i say we don't unify
Its a done deal, not currently a topic of debate amongst professional scientists.
 
Xilus said:
i say we don't unify.

In science, an opinion has to be justified to have merit. It's not like "I don't like broccoli". As Dale says, it's too late - we already know that electricity and magnetism are two aspects of the same, electromagnetic, force.
 
Xilus said:
the electric field makes a lot of sense. but what is magnetism?
why is it so elusive?

It's not elusive. It's understood extremely well. What is it that gives you the impression that we don't understand magnetism?

Xilus said:
why do we consider light similar to an electric field?

Lots and lots and lots and lots and lots of experiments support the theory that light is an electromagnetic wave. Nothing else predicts the effect that light will have better than our current electromagnetic theories. Maxwell's equations are enormously successful in accurately describing the behavior of light.
 
ok there is no way maxwell wrote the equations without the discovery of electrons.
 
Xilus said:
ok there is no way maxwell wrote the equations without the discovery of electrons.

Errr ... so you dispute history now? Maxwell died in 1879, the electron was discovered in 1897.
 
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