Are Qualia Real? Debate & Discussion

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Qualia, defined as the subjective properties of sensory experiences, are a contentious topic in the philosophy of mind. Their existence is debated, with some philosophers asserting that qualia are real and non-physical, while others argue they are delusions or merely brain events. The discussion highlights the challenge of proving qualia's existence through third-person methods, as they are inherently epistemically unknowable without direct experience. Participants express varying views on whether science will ever account for qualia, with some believing that even a complete mapping of the brain would not explain them. The conversation also touches on the implications of qualia for scientific understanding, aesthetics, ethics, and complex behavior, emphasizing the need for a clear distinction between logical reasoning and intuitive comprehension. The paradox of qualia is noted, as they appear to be both real and potentially non-functional, leading to further inquiry into their significance and the nature of reality itself. Overall, the debate reflects deep philosophical divides regarding consciousness and the nature of experience.

Are qualia real?


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Faust said:
Do you think a physicalist would agree with you on that?

Oh, I forget, they don't agree because they cop out.

They would probably agree that subjectivity is not accounted for. They would probably then go on to argue that it isn't a problem because it's just an illusion and doesn't really exists. That's a cop-out because it doesn't explain anything. It's taking an easy way out in order to keep the world view intact. Got anything besides propaganda?
 
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Fliption said:
Got anything besides propaganda?

Well, I can see why you say no one ever explains things to you.
 
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Faust said:
Well, I can see why you say no one ever explains things to you.

Because I call them on their weak arguments?

Come on guy give me some reason to believe this language idea and let's move beyond this nonsense. I've already pointed out that I used the cop-out term in general and wasn't referring to you specifically. Explain why you think you're view is more reasonable than the other views being presented here.
 
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