Are Singularities One-Sided in Terms of Time?

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The discussion centers around the nature of singularities, particularly in the context of time and their implications for the Big Bang theory. Participants explore whether singularities represent endpoints or beginnings of time and how this relates to the origins of the universe, considering both theoretical and observational aspects.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants propose that singularities mark the end of time for objects within them, questioning whether time existed before the Big Bang singularity.
  • Others argue that the Big Bang singularity may be an artefact of current theories, suggesting that future developments in quantum gravity could provide a more accurate description.
  • There is speculation about the possibility of a prior universe leading to the Big Bang, with some suggesting that information about this may be embedded in the Cosmic Microwave Background (CMB).
  • One participant notes the uncertainty surrounding the nature of the universe's beginning, mentioning theories like the "big bounce" that propose a smooth and finite start rather than a singularity.
  • Another participant expresses skepticism towards infinite cycle theories, favoring the Big Bang due to its evidential support and predictive power, while acknowledging the limitations of current technology in exploring newer theories.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of views on the nature of singularities and their implications for time, with no consensus reached on whether singularities are one-sided in terms of time or how they relate to the Big Bang. The discussion remains unresolved with multiple competing perspectives.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight limitations in current understanding of singularities, including the inability to directly observe the conditions at the universe's start and the dependence on theoretical frameworks that may evolve with future research.

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Singularities are places where time ends for anything in them. In other words, if Bob falls into a black hole at 2:00, time will end for the matter in his body and he won't exist time-wise past 2:00. But according to the Big Bang theory, the universe began in the form of a singularity. Obviously time exists now, but we don't know if time existed before the BB singularity. Does this mean singularities are one sided as far as time goes? meaning that time must either begin or end completely in singularities. If so, what does this mean for the creation of the BB singularity?
 
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marcus linked to this page in a recent thread, which says:
Markus Pössel said:
while some cosmologists do not have a problem with assuming that our universe began in a singular state, most are convinced that the big bang singularity is an artefact - to be replaced by a more accurate description once quantum gravity research has made suitable progress.
(I don't have the background myself to comment any more than that.)
 
The big bang may have resulted from some prior 'universe' reaching a 'tipping point'. Problem is, information on conditions leading up to the big event may not have survived. Some think it may be embedded in the CMB. It is, however, probably safe to say the BB singularity was not the same species as those that may currently reside in the universe.
 
No one knows for sure.

The start of this universe may have come from another, may be part of an infinite chain of bubbles evolving spactime, may have been a random quantum vacuum fluctuation...

It is currently believed we can not directly observe the "start" because it's beyond our cosmological horizon...the key point is no one can prove whether the start was really a singularity or not...big bounce is a recent theory supposing a rather smooth and finite start...
 
Thanks for the comments. I agree with you Chronos in that the BB singularity is probably different from today's typical black hole singularities. It just seems to me that we know too little about singularities. All we can really do is calculate a handful of their properties like their mass, gravity, and maybe some other things. I'm really interested in how they effect time, and I'd really like to know what part Hawking radiation played in the BB S, if any at all. As far as other theories for the start of the universe go, I don't like anything that proposes infinite cycles, like Steinhardt and Turok's Brane Cosmology for example. Those type of theories, while they may be correct, just don't seem to fly in my thinking. The way I see it, if we go back in time, all of space had to be in one place, which is why I prefer the BB over newer theories. I'll always be open to new things, but unlike other theories, the BB has the most evidence, and has made the most accurate predictions. However, it may be that we just don't have enough technology to find evidence supporting newer theories.
 

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