Are T and T2 the Same in Physics Equilibrium Problems?

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The discussion revolves around the relationship between tension forces T and T2 in the context of physics equilibrium problems. The original poster has posed a question regarding whether these two tensions are equivalent, despite having already reached a conclusion in their own work.

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  • Participants are exploring the reasoning behind the equivalence of T and T2, with some questioning the need for confirmation after the original poster claims to have solved the problem. Others suggest methods for analyzing the system using free-body diagrams and applying Newton's second law.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing insights into the problem-solving process and suggesting methods for verification. There are indications of differing interpretations regarding the approach to the problem, but no explicit consensus has been reached.

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The original poster expresses a sense of uncertainty about their solution and seeks reassurance, indicating a potential concern about errors in their reasoning. The problem involves specific forces and masses, which may not be fully detailed in the discussion.

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Are T and T2 same?

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This is just a yes and no answer[/B]

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I don't want anything solved. I've actually solved it already and have gotten T2= T
NOTE( T≠T1 here)
 

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If you have solved it, why are you asking?
 
I have solved it but I'm frequently paranoid regarding the errors I make while solving questions. So wanted to make sure.
That's why I needed your help.
 
I've just suggested this method over on your other thread.

You can erase the 10kg mass and the 200n force and apply f=ma to what's left.
 
CWatters said:
I've just suggested this method over on your other thread.

You can erase the 10kg mass and the 200n force and apply f=ma to what's left.
Well, this is quite obviously equivalent. The main point is that if you have a set of ##N## unknowns you need to draw the free-body diagrams of ##N## different systems where those unknowns (and no other unknowns) appear. In this case, you can draw the fbd of the full system (which in both cases result in the same) and then choose whether or not to draw the FBD of the latter part or the rightmost box. Since ##T_1## is internal it will not appear in any of those FBDs and you end up with two unknowns, ##T_2## and ##a## or (in the first case) ##T## and ##a##.
 

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