Are there any experiments that supports de broglie-Bohm theory?

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The discussion centers around the de Broglie-Bohm theory (dBB) and its relationship with standard quantum mechanics (SQM), particularly in the context of experimental support or refutation. Participants explore the implications of hidden variable theories, the equivalence of dBB and SQM, and the potential for experiments to distinguish between the two frameworks.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants note that while hidden variable theories are challenged by Bell's and Leggett's inequalities, dBB has not been disproven by these tests.
  • There is a suggestion that the equivalence between dBB and SQM may be overstated, particularly in the context of multi-particle states and phenomena like decay and annihilation.
  • One participant argues that dBB's interpretation of quantum field theory addresses some of the limitations of both dBB and SQM.
  • Another participant proposes that dBB may provide a better framework for understanding time in quantum mechanics compared to SQM.
  • Concerns are raised about whether any experiments exist that could definitively distinguish between dBB and SQM, with one participant suggesting that a system could exist where the empirical distribution does not align with |psi|^2, potentially contradicting SQM while remaining consistent with dBB.
  • A reference to A. Valentini's work is made, indicating that further exploration of this topic may be found in his papers.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the equivalence of dBB and SQM, with some arguing that the equivalence is overestimated and others suggesting that dBB offers advantages in certain contexts. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the existence of experiments that could definitively support or refute dBB in comparison to SQM.

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Participants highlight limitations in the current understanding of dBB and SQM, particularly regarding multi-particle states and the implications of quantum equilibrium. There are unresolved questions about the conditions under which dBB might provide different predictions than SQM.

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There are a lot of experiments to disproof hidden variable theories with Bell's inequalities (local) and Leggett's inequalities (non-local). But de broglie-Bohm theory (dBB) survives from all of them. Also I know there is an Quantum Equilibrium Hypothesis says that everything that disproof dBB, will also disproof standard quantum mechanics (SQM).

But, is there any experiment that gives better results on dBB than SQM? Or is there any experiment that supports dBB against SQM?
 
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Isn't this dBB and QM equivalence a bit overestimated? As far as I know, QM does not explain behaviour of many particles states. So, it has been already disproven, since there is certainly more than one particle in the universe. So is dBB.

dBB assumes particles are hard balls, so it is difficult to explain i.e. decay, annihilation or flavour oscillations.
 
haael said:
Isn't this dBB and QM equivalence a bit overestimated? As far as I know, QM does not explain behaviour of many particles states. So, it has been already disproven, since there is certainly more than one particle in the universe. So is dBB.

dBB assumes particles are hard balls, so it is difficult to explain i.e. decay, annihilation or flavour oscillations.
All these difficulties are removed by the dBB interpretation of quantum field theory:
http://xxx.lanl.gov/abs/0904.2287 [Int. J. Mod. Phys. A25:1477-1505, 2010]
 
cryptist said:
But, is there any experiment that gives better results on dBB than SQM? Or is there any experiment that supports dBB against SQM?
I think that time in QM better fits in the dBB thinking than in the SQM thinking:
http://xxx.lanl.gov/abs/0811.1905 [Int. J. Quantum Inf. 7 (2009) 595-602]
 
Demystifier said:
I think that time in QM better fits in the dBB thinking than in the SQM thinking:
http://xxx.lanl.gov/abs/0811.1905 [Int. J. Quantum Inf. 7 (2009) 595-602]

Ok, but is there any experiment that distinguishes the difference of dbb and SQM? Or there can be such an experiment?
 
cryptist said:
Ok, but is there any experiment that distinguishes the difference of dbb and SQM? Or there can be such an experiment?
Well, dBB is richer than SQM in the sense that it allows a POSSIBILITY that a system may be out of quantum equilibrium, i.e., the statistical distribution may differ from |psi|^2. Such a possibility is very unlikely in dBB, but is still possible. So, if one would find a system in which the empirical distribution is not given by |psi|^2, this would contradict SQM, but perhaps could still be explained by dBB. For more details search for papers by A. Valentiny.
 
Demystifier said:
For more details search for papers by A. Valentiny.
A. Valentini

Thanks for the comments :)
 

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