Are There Closed Form Approximations for nth Order Polynomial Roots?

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The discussion revolves around the existence of closed form approximations for the roots of nth order polynomials, particularly focusing on the challenges associated with polynomials of degree greater than four.

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  • Participants explore the idea of approximating polynomial roots without iterations and discuss the limitations of closed form solutions for higher degree polynomials. Some mention the necessity of initial approximations for iterative methods to be effective.

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The conversation is ongoing, with participants sharing insights about the impracticality of general formulas for higher degree polynomials and the reliance on numerical methods. There is no clear consensus, but various perspectives on approximation methods are being explored.

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One participant notes that their inquiry is driven by a physical quantity dependent on the polynomial roots, indicating a practical application for the discussion. References to historical mathematical concepts, such as Galois' work, are made to contextualize the challenges faced.

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Do there exist closed form approximating expressions for the roots of an nth order polynomial?
 
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You won't find an expression over radicals for roots of polynomials above order 4, but you are asking about approximating roots without using iterations.

There are many approaches - depending on how good you need the approximation to be.
You have to do some of this in order to get the 1st approximation for the iterative approaches to work quickly.

AFAIK: there is no general approach for all polynomials - with computers, iterative approaches are fast and convenient so you don't have to be very accurate.
 
It is because I have an expression for a physical quantities, which depends on the roots of an nth order polynomial. I want to see if I can get an approximate closed form expression and to do that I need an approximate closed form for the root.
 
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It is because I have an expression for a physical quantities, which depends on the roots of an nth order polynomial. I want to see if I can get an approximate closed form expression and to do that I need an approximate closed form for the root.

You may have heard of this chap called Galois. He proved that a general formula using arithmetic and radicals for solving for the roots of polynomials of degree greater than or equal to 5 was impractical, if not impossible.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polynomial

It's like trying to go faster than the speed of light: all sorts of wonderful things could happen if this were possible, but alas, it is impossible. It is the same situation with finding the roots to your polynomial: numerically or not at all.
 
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