Are There Computer Programs That Can Replace a Graphing Calculator?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the availability and functionality of computer programs that can serve as alternatives to graphing calculators, specifically the TI-83+. Participants explore various software options, their capabilities, and usability for different academic needs, including mathematics and engineering.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested
  • Homework-related

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest downloading emulators for TI calculators, which replicate the functionality of the handheld devices on a computer.
  • Warren mentions more powerful software options like Maxima and Octave, highlighting their capabilities beyond those of standard graphing calculators.
  • One participant emphasizes the importance of learning a mathematics package for science or engineering degrees, recommending Octave for its compatibility with MATLAB syntax.
  • Another participant points out that while Virtual TI is a good option, it requires codes from an actual TI calculator.
  • There is a mention of a built-in "grapher" application for Mac users, which is noted to be effective.
  • Some participants express satisfaction with Maxima and Octave, sharing their experiences and suggesting that they are user-friendly, especially for those with programming knowledge.
  • Concerns are raised about whether Octave requires programming knowledge and compatibility issues with certain processors.
  • Participants discuss the legality of using TI ROMs with emulators, clarifying that they are legal if the user owns the corresponding calculator model.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that there are viable alternatives to graphing calculators, but multiple competing views exist regarding the best software options and their requirements. The discussion remains unresolved regarding specific compatibility issues and the necessity of programming knowledge for certain programs.

Contextual Notes

Some participants mention limitations related to software compatibility with different computer architectures and the potential need for programming knowledge to effectively use certain applications.

DougD720
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Hello everyone,

sometimes it's easier for me to run calculations on my computer rather than to go find my graphing calculator. Are there programs out there that have all the functions (or more) of my graphing calculator (TI-83+).

Also if anyone knows of any good like bluetooth keypads to link up to my laptop, it doesn't have one.

Thanks!
 
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You can download emulators of most TI calculators for free. These emulators behave just like the hand-held calculator, but show up on your computer screen.

http://www.ticalc.org/basics/calculators/ti-89.html#10

You can also download much more powerful software like Maxima or Octave for free.

- Warren
 
What kind of program are you in Doug? If it's any kind of science or engineering degree, you might as well starting learning a mathematics package now, your going to need it eventually. Octavia is a good one to start with(its free) and its syntax is compatible to matlabs and the more advanced TI calc CAS systems.

If you just need something to do quick and dirty graphs with, there should be an insane number of java applets that will handle most common functions in order to give you a picture and a whole host of free graph programs that can give you more details then the applets.
 
yeah i thought about the Virtual TI, which is probably the best. I'm not looking into the too complex, I am still in high-school and just need something handy to have about. I'll look into those though. Thanks!
 
Looks like the virtual TI needs codes from an actual TI calculator though

Does Octave require programing backround to operate
 
If you run a mac, there is a "grapher" application that comes with it, and it works wonders.

Other than that, just like others have said, for number/solver crunching a Ti emulator will do the trick.
 
yeah, ill stick to the TI of mine, but i downloaded that Maxima and it's pretty nifty, ha. So I'm playing around with it, though i'll probably never need it anytime soon, ;) thanks!
 
DougD720, I am with chroot on this one! Using a proper CAS offers you capabilities far, far beyond anything you can do with any graphing calculator.

I myself use Maple, which is partially based upon a precursor of Maxima. Unfortunately, Maple is not cheap--- unless you are a registered college student, in which case you should snap up a copy and start learning to use it immediately.

For more advanced students: those interested in group theory should check out GAP at http://www.gap-system.org/. Those interested in commutative or homological algebra or algebraic geometry should check out http://www.math.uiuc.edu/Macaulay2/ (and also Singular and other CAS for algebraic geometry).
 
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The TI roms you need to use with the emulators are available from the same website. They are perfectly legal to use, as long as you own the same model calculator. That said, you'd still be better served by Octave or Maxima.

- Warren
 
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Does either Maxima or Octave require programming knowledge and can you print out from either program?

Also, I installed Octave and I received an error which stated that Octave was built for Intel 98x processors and that other architectures might not operate well with the program. I have an AMD Semprorr 2800+ (I believe) -- will this cause any conflicts?

I am downloading Maxima right now.
 
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Im using the maxima and I'm quite impressed. I know some computer programming so the interface is like cake to me (i've done some actionscript, javascript, html, css, php, basic, and a bit of c++). I like it and I'm very impressed. My suggestion.
 

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