TI-84 Plus Calculator Cannot Perform Log Function (Err:Argument)

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around the issue of a TI-84 Plus calculator displaying an "ERR:ARGUMENT" message when attempting to perform logarithmic calculations, specifically when using the function "log(2, 4)". Participants explore the capabilities of the calculator regarding logarithmic functions and seek solutions for the error encountered.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant notes that the TI-84 Plus calculator may not support logarithms to bases other than 10 or e, suggesting that the user check the calculator manual for capabilities.
  • Another participant explains that the standard log function on calculators typically takes one argument, indicating that the user may be trying to use a function not supported by their calculator.
  • A formula for calculating logarithms to any base is provided: ##\log_b x = \log x / \log b = \ln x / \ln b##, which could be useful for the user.
  • Links to a TI website are shared, possibly for software or additional resources related to the calculator.
  • Participants discuss the misconception that "log" is a simple button rather than a function with specific properties, highlighting a common misunderstanding among users.
  • The original poster expresses curiosity about why similar calculators can perform logs to other bases and appreciates the responses received.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on whether the TI-84 Plus can perform logarithmic functions for bases other than 10 or e, as some suggest it may require programming or specific functions while others clarify standard capabilities.

Contextual Notes

There is uncertainty regarding the specific software capabilities of the TI-84 Plus calculator and whether additional programming is necessary for advanced logarithmic functions.

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Hello I have a TI-84 Plus calculator and during my math class we were doing log functions on the calculator and I was met with the err "Argument". I don't know what this means, but from what I've heard my calculator is missing the required software to run a log. I should clarify that when I say log I mean a problem that would be put into a calculator as "log(2, 4)" and it will come up with "ERR:ARGUMENT" rather than the answer of 2. Does anyone know how, or where I can go to get my calculator to work with the log function? I have a cable to connect it to my laptop if there is some program I must install on it.

Thanks!
 
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Most calculator log functions take one argument, since 'log' is shorthand for Base-10 logarithms. What you are trying to do is find the logarithm of a number to a different base, I think. Check your calculator manual to see if the function you are trying to use is included in the calculator's capability. If it isn't, you may have to program the calculator.
 
Like most calculators it has a "log" button for logs to base 10, and a "ln" button for logs to base e (natural logs).

It is easy to calculate logs to any other base: ##\log_b x = \log x / \log b = \ln x / \ln b##.
(You will probably learn formulas like that soon in your math class).
 
Borek said:

Press [ALPHA] [WINDOW] [5] to access the FUNC menu and insert the logbase( function.
That sort of thing gives people the wrong idea that you need to be a genius to do math or computer programming :biggrin:

The TI-83 method makes sense, though.
 
Sadly, people thinking log is a button on calculator, and not a function with well known properties, are in majority.
 
AlephZero said:
##\log_b x = \log x / \log b = \ln x / \ln b##
Thank you all very much for your responses, this formula is going to indeed come in handy. I guess the confusion I had was why certain calculators that were the same type as mine were capable of performing logs to a base other then 10 by inputting "Log(2, 4)" however it isn't too much of an issue now anyway, I'm just a curious person and I like to understand things like that :P

Anyways, thank you all for your responses and help!
 

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