Are there global gauge transformations in typical electrodynamics potentials?

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The discussion revolves around the nature of gauge transformations in electrodynamics, specifically questioning whether these transformations can be global or are inherently local. Participants explore the implications of these transformations on the understanding of electrodynamics, touching on concepts from topology and gauge theory.

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  • One participant asserts that gauge transformations for typical electrodynamics potentials are local, existing only in path connected topological spaces, and questions the existence of global gauge transformations.
  • Another participant expresses uncertainty about the initial equation and suggests that gauge theories typically involve equations symmetric under global transformations, which are then examined for local symmetry.
  • A different viewpoint proposes that any vector with zero curl can be expressed locally as a gradient, but this representation is limited to path connected spaces, raising concerns about the implications for closed trajectories in non-path connected spaces.
  • One participant discusses the role of gauge conditions in breaking symmetry within the equations of potentials, referencing J. D. Jackson's work on gauge functions and questioning their global existence.
  • Another participant challenges the need for a gauge function to fix a gauge, suggesting that one can assume solutions satisfy certain equations without performing a gauge transformation.
  • A participant reiterates the initial question about the local versus global nature of gauge transformations and expresses a desire for a more mathematically rigorous answer, providing a reference to an article for further reading.

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Participants exhibit disagreement regarding the nature of gauge transformations, with some asserting their local nature and others questioning or challenging this view. The discussion remains unresolved, with multiple competing perspectives presented.

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Participants reference concepts from topology, gauge theory, and the implications of gauge conditions, indicating a complex interplay of mathematical and physical ideas that may not be fully resolved within the discussion.

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Due to its form, gauge transformations for the typical electrodynamics potentials are "local" in nature. That`s: they exists for path connected topological spaces. So, there exists global gauge transformations or are all of them local in nature?. If the answer is "yes", i.e. if there are global gauge transformations our ideas about electrodynamics are quite general, if the answer is "no", then we cannot have a global equivalence of the different gauges, and the results obtained in one gauge are not globally equivalent to the results in any other gauge. What do you think?.
 
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I'm not sure I understand your equation. But actually when people talk about a gauge theory, they mean some equations that already is symmetric under some global transformation and they're going to see what they can do to it to make it symmetric under the local version of that transformation.
 
Well, let`s put the question in this form: any vector A with a zero curl ∇×A=0 can be expressed "locally" as a gradient A = ∇Ω for some function Ω. But its global version, .i.e. all along the topological space, is valid for path connected spaces only. For this reason the integral ∫A.dr is not zero for all closed trajectories when the space is not path connected. In the case of Maxwell equations the potentials are introduced solving two of the equations, hence the other two define the potentials. But the point is that that equations for the potentials admits an infinite dimensional symmetry that we call "gauge symmetry" , so the system is constrained in its Hamiltonian form and Noether second theorem tell us arbitrary functions exists in the solution. So, in this form the set of equations is underdetermined and no solution can be obtained; at least not in the sense of classical mathematical physics. To solve the equations we introduce a gauge condition to break the symmetry. To introduce such condition we use a gauge transformation that involves gradients -in its four dimensional form is a four gradient- so we suppose that a "gauge function" exists. E.g. when we transform from Coulomb to Lorenz gauge we suppose that a gauge function exists. J. D. Jackson believes that he knows how to obtain explicitly such a function. Here is where the question of global and local becomes critical: the gauge function exists locally -or that we believe and Jackson helps us to believe such a thing- but is the case that the gauge function exists globally?.
 
At first I thought, by local and global, you mean the usual meaning but it seems you mean something else.
I don't think you need a gauge function to fix a gauge, because you don't actually do a gauge transformation, you just assume your solution satisfies an equation.
 
Rolandosmx said:
Due to its form, gauge transformations for the typical electrodynamics potentials are "local" in nature. That`s: they exists for path connected topological spaces. So, there exists global gauge transformations or are all of them local in nature?. If the answer is "yes", i.e. if there are global gauge transformations our ideas about electrodynamics are quite general, if the answer is "no", then we cannot have a global equivalence of the different gauges, and the results obtained in one gauge are not globally equivalent to the results in any other gauge. What do you think?.

I wish I knew the whole mathematically complicated answer to your problem, by my college education in gauge theories was only algebraic, no differential geometry.
I can only offer an article which should address your query (I hope): http://arxiv.org/abs/1211.6420v3
 

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