Are there more flexible formulas for finding the area of surfaces of revolution?

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This discussion focuses on the flexibility of formulas for calculating the area of surfaces of revolution, particularly in relation to rotations about arbitrary axes. The user highlights the use of two expressions, A = π(R² - r²) and A = 2πrh, which apply to any horizontal or vertical axis. The conversation also addresses the confusion surrounding the "washer" method, emphasizing that areas should be added rather than subtracted, contrasting with volume calculations. The need for more generalized formulas that are not limited to specific axes is a key takeaway.

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When I learned about volumes of solids of revolution, I never really memorized any formulas for specific cases per se. I used two expressions for area, either ##A = \pi (R^2 - r^2)## and ##A = 2\pi r h##.
Those expressions worked for rotations about any horizontal/vertical axis (not necessarily ##x## or ##y##) and for all functions.
Now I'm learning about areas of surfaces of revolution, but all the "formulas" or integrals online seem to be solely for rotations about one of the axes (##x## or ##y##). Is it possible to use a formula that is less specific, for instance, ##2\pi r## for the circumference? This would work for all rotations and it does not obscure the essence of deriving formulas for areas of surfaces of revolution. Also, in the "washer" (for lack of a better word) case, aren't we supposed to add the areas, unlike the volume case where we had to "subtract the volumes"? It seems very obvious to be, but I wanted to make sure since there is no reference to this particular case online.
Thank you in advance.
 
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You can always replace x by y.
Usually you have a function y(x), and rotating this function around different axes makes the problem different. Sometimes you can find a function x(y).
MohammedRady said:
Also, in the "washer" (for lack of a better word) case, aren't we supposed to add the areas, unlike the volume case where we had to "subtract the volumes"?
I don't understand that question.
 
MohammedRady said:
Also, in the "washer" (for lack of a better word) case, aren't we supposed to add the areas, unlike the volume case where we had to "subtract the volumes"?
mfb said:
I don't understand that question.
I don't, either. If you are using washers to calculate the volume of a solid of revolution, with a curve that is revolved around the x-axis, the volume of a typical volume element is ##\Delta V = \pi (R^2 - r^2)\Delta x##. For a given volume element you're subtracting the volume in the hole from the total volume. In the integral, you're essentially adding all of the volume increments, so perhaps this is what you meant.
 

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