Are there really people like this?

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Science and God don't mix: God keeps falling out of solution and falling to the bottom.

This kind of nonsensical thinking (that birds and clouds fly because God wills them too...) does more harm to the Christian religions than just accepting the scientific explanations.


WEll if thats the will of God....

oh, wait....
 
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The Pope accepts science as a whole and the universe, along with the crazy theories accompanied with it.

I highly doubt religious people are keeping up with their religion and where it stands.
 
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JasonRox said:
The Pope accepts science as a whole and the universe, along with the crazy theories accompanied with it.

I highly doubt religious people are keeping up with their religion and where it stands.


The Pope is catholic. The majority of these loonies are not. The majority of them hate the Pope and catholics (This from experience living as a Catholic in the Bible Belt of California i.e., home of the flat earth society). The Pope declaring the Big Bang theory in accordance with the scripture is to them just more evidenc that they're right.
 
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Artman said:
Science and God don't mix: God keeps falling out of solution and falling to the bottom

"science is a partial differential equation, religion is a boundary condiditon" - alan turing
 
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For the record, the atheists' interpretation of some of this is quite unfair. Philosophically speaking, of course, God's will is not exclusive of the laws of nature, or visa versa. There are ways of looking at the world that sound absurd if considered within some frames of reference, if you like, but there are other equally valid frames, and there always will be. Even in science we are reduced to making assumptions that must be taken on faith.
 
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The letter may have been a joke, but there's still a Flat Earth Society kicking about.
 
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The Flat Earth Society is a joke. Literally.
I mean, have you seen their banner?

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Flat earthers, gees. That's a matter of science, not faith.
 
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I find it common that when people see the ridicilous nature of religious extremist, they somehow develop a bias against regular, "good" religious believers.

Don't be hatin' playa
 
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So what do the good religious people do to counter the effects of the bad? When I was a pious Catholic there were lots of good works offered, but none of them addressed the problems of people who assassinate abortion doctors.
 
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So what do the good religious people do to counter the effects of the bad? When I was a pious Catholic there were lots of good works offered, but none of them addressed the problems of people who assassinate abortion doctors.
Using your example: a large chunk of the Christian belief is to not judge the sinner, but judge the sin. Would that not apply to cases where abortion doctors are assasinated? Do the religious do that much less than the non-religious?
 
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Something about this made me wonder, even though it's really a different topic...when you have a contract that includes an exemption for "acts of God", if you're an atheist, does that give you an out on that clause?
 
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Something about this made me wonder, even though it's really a different topic...when you have a contract that includes an exemption for "acts of God", if you're an atheist, does that give you an out on that clause?


No, the clause then reads: "Exemption for seemingly bizarre confluences of unfortunate evidents only explicable through the use of Nonlinear Dynamics and chaos theory and one friggin big supercomputer."
 
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Personally, I am pretty confident it is a tongue-in-cheek letter.

The following line:

"Clearly things rise or fall based solely upon divine will. We do not float away because God chooses that we should not."

is stated so matter-of-factly that the intended reaction is surely eye-rolling disbelief. The writer is a scientist who is caricaturizing (stereotyping) a religious zealot.

In reality, even the strongest of religious believers would not be so ham-fisted as this with his claims of what "everbody knows to be obvious".
 
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"I find it common that when people see the ridicilous nature of religious extremist, they somehow develop a bias against regular, "good" religious believers. "

"So what do the good religious people do to counter the effects of the bad?"

This suffers from the folly of generalization. "Good religious people" are not responsible for the actions of religious extremists. (Or do you also feel that all males are responsible for the sex crimes committed by a few male offenders.)
 
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The way I look at it now, is that perhaps God did intend us to stay here.

The truly beautiful thing is that God "created" this universe and there so happens to be a beautiful mathematical model behind it. As physicists, we are concerned about the beauty of nature and that is the mathematical model of the universe.
 
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JasonRox said:
The truly beautiful thing is that God "created" this universe and there so happens to be a beautiful mathematical model behind it.
But that's only a myth.
 
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Evo said:
But that's only a myth.

That's why I said "created".

I simply agree with the religious and add that I love the beauty behind nature, and that is what I'm studying. I don't care where they put God because arguing about it is stupid.

Note: I don't if I believe in God or not.
 

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