Are Virtual Particles Always the Same or Do They Vary in Our Universe?

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The discussion centers around the nature of virtual particles, specifically whether they are consistent across different contexts or if they exhibit variations. Participants explore their role in quantum field theory, interactions, and their implications in various physical phenomena.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants propose that virtual particles are a method to describe interactions in quantum field theory, suggesting they arise whenever interactions occur.
  • Others argue that virtual particles can violate energy and momentum relations, and they may not adhere to the same physical laws as real particles.
  • A participant questions whether virtual particles are emitted during everyday interactions, such as rubbing against a wall, and seeks clarification on the types of interactions that produce them.
  • Another participant notes that virtual particles are often viewed as mathematical entities rather than actual particles, emphasizing their role in theoretical models.
  • Some contributions highlight the measurable effects attributed to virtual particles, such as shifts in atomic energy levels, while still questioning their existence.
  • There is a contention regarding the definition and emission of virtual particles, with some asserting that they must be created and annihilated in specific processes.

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Participants express a range of views on the nature and existence of virtual particles, with no consensus reached on whether they are consistent or vary in different contexts. The discussion remains unresolved regarding their physical reality and implications.

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Limitations include varying interpretations of virtual particles, dependence on mathematical models, and unresolved questions about their physical existence and behavior in different interactions.

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Virtual particles or not only found spontaneously apearing in a vacuum, but also inside atoms via the strong force. My question is are these virtual particles always considered (as far as we know) the same, or do they come in documented/reasonably theorized variatys.

Any other examples of where virtual particles have a roll in our universe?
 
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Virtual particles are a method to describe (nearly all) interactions. Therefore, as soon as you have some interaction doing anything, you have virtual particles.
They are just like regular particles, but can violate the energy/momentum-relation.
 
mfb said:
Virtual particles are a method to describe (nearly all) interactions. Therefore, as soon as you have some interaction doing anything, you have virtual particles.
They are just like regular particles, but can violate the energy/momentum-relation.

So if I rub up against my wall somehow virtual particles are emmited? Or by 'interactions' do you mean strong/weak force, electromagnatism, and gravity? Can you please elaborate.
 
according to quantum field theory, you get virual particlee when a process undergoes, such as an electrons and positrons annhilating each other to create photons. the virtual particle maintains the energy conservation of the system, but the intermitent step (typically a connecting line in a fynmann diagram) that defines the virtal particle can have pretty much any energy (some like to put relativistic limits on it). but i only took a small intro/survey course to qft, so i could have this wrong.

i think of them more a a mathematical entity rather than an actual particle, hence the virtual.

there is a lot in qft that people try to create physical meaning for that they probably shouldnt.
 
Virtual particles are an artifact of a particular mathematical model. in the perturbation description of quantum theory these particles are the carriers of the interaction between real particles. They do not obey the usual rules. They can travel faster than c and they do not obey E^2 = pc^2 + (mc^2)^2. Whether they exist or not is a subject of much debate.

I suggest you read the physics FAQ for a complete discussion.
 
Virtual particles are an artifact of a particular mathematical model. in the perturbation description of quantum theory these particles are the carriers of the interaction between real particles. They do not obey the usual rules. They can travel faster than c and they do not obey E^2 = pc^2 + (mc^2)^2. Whether they exist or not is a subject of much debate.

I suggest you read the physics FAQ for a complete discussion.
 
Virtual electron-positron pairs, or the physics model they represent, produce the 27-MHz shift in the 1057-MHz Lamb shift in hydrogen, and very significant measurable energy shifts in muonic and pionic atoms. Whether or not virtual particles exist, they have a measurable effect.
 
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So if I rub up against my wall somehow virtual particles are emmited? Or by 'interactions' do you mean strong/weak force, electromagnatism, and gravity? Can you please elaborate.
Emission of virtual particles does not make sense - by definition, virtual particles have to be created and annihilated in the described process.
In addition, virtual particles are a nice model to describe fundamental interactions, like the attraction between an electron and a proton. In contrast, if you want to describe macroscopic things, it is better to do this classical: with electromagnetic fields and so on.

"Interactions" in particle physics are the strong and the electroweak interaction (which contains the electromagnetic and the weak interaction in the low-energy limit).
 

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