Are water waves indicative of QED?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion explores the relationship between water waves and quantum electrodynamics (QED), considering whether the behavior of water waves can be indicative of quantum mechanical principles. Participants engage in a conceptual examination of wave formation and its potential connections to quantum mechanics.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests that the formation of regular waves from a steady breeze across calm water might reflect quantum mechanics, possibly relating to the fine structure of matter and Planck's constant.
  • Another participant argues that the observed wave patterns are a result of the chemical bonding of water, which they believe is influenced by QED, questioning why other waveforms do not appear.
  • A different participant comments on the transition from chaos to order in the context of wave formation, suggesting that this process may be instinctively understood and relates to the probabilistic nature of QED.
  • One participant challenges the use of the term "quantized" in the context of water waves, indicating that its meaning may not align with its definition in quantum mechanics.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the connection between water waves and QED, with no consensus reached on the validity of these connections or the implications of wave behavior.

Contextual Notes

Participants do not clarify the assumptions underlying their claims, and there is ambiguity regarding the definitions of terms like "quantized" in this context.

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Maybe not.

I'm just thinking, idly...

If, under controlled conditions, you blow a steady gentle breeze across the surface of an otherwise perfectly calm body of water, I figure you'd make a ripple of (regular) waves. A steady-state analog input, yet quantized rhythmic output. Do you suppose that is somehow indicative of quantum mechanics at work? ..perhaps a reflection of the fine structure of matter and Planck's constant?

I just find it interesting; thanks
 
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I have thought this before and came to the conclusion that it must be. The reason we see waves is due to the way in which the water is chemically bonded, which is in turn due to QED. I mean why is it we don't see a square wave or saw wave or some sort of random wave. I don't know for sure but I think it is.
 
Instinctively, it's no mystery that when chaos is forced into an orderly march, the transition would have to be a choppy one. [To wit, The perfectly calm body of water is a chaos of individually buzzing/moving molecules and the breeze exerts a force that tends those nearest the surface to move in conform.]

Maybe most of QED is fairly instinctive.

Probabilistic clustering is another example I can come up with that is instinctively-grasped. QED is an expression of probabilities, of course.
 
This sounds pretty, but isn't very meaningful.

truhaht said:
Maybe not.
A steady-state analog input, yet quantized rhythmic output.

What do you mean by "quantized" here? It's certainly not the same meaning as in QM.
 

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