Are you single, married, or do you have a gf/bf?

[lisab]

Nope! I just don't care why they do this since anyone has the right to do whatever s/he wants with his/her body, IMO! It's just strange for me when I see people expect all women to wear make-up all the time, everywhere. And otherwise they take you as a weirdo and maybe not a real woman.

Amen. It's a blessing in disguise that my skin is too sensitive to wear much makeup (one day I can get away with, two days in a row and I'll get dermatitis).

Interestingly, men don't seem to mind a natural woman. It's the overly made-up women that give me the evil eye!

 

[Cyrus]

Amen. It's a blessing in disguise that my skin is too sensitive to wear much makeup (one day I can get away with, two days in a row and I'll get dermatitis).

Interestingly, men don't seem to mind a natural woman. It's the overly made-up women that give me the evil eye!

Overly made up women, women with nail polish...they remind me of hookers.

I really wish I took a picture of that girl and her mom today. They had almost no makeup and just looked amazzinggg the way they were. The girl should be a model, and so should her mom. Nice round cute face with distinct facial feature. The mom and the daughter had difference faces. Probably she took after her father, but they both had unique things about them that were very very pretty.

 

[turbo]

Then I apologize Turbo. I thought you were directing that comment at me as a reply, and I agree. What I am saying is that I look for my list of physical things, before I get to the more important mental things.

Accepted Cy. BTW, the lovely lady that started trying to get manipulative NEVER wore makeup. She looked great all the time, too, especially when she had a glow from skiing and other winter activities. I saw beauty pageant pictures of her and was disappointed that she let herself be made up to compete and didn't go clean and natural.

 

[Cyrus]

Accepted Cy. BTW, the lovely lady that started trying to get manipulative NEVER wore makeup. She looked great all the time, too, especially when she had a glow from skiing and other winter activities. I saw beauty pageant pictures of her and was disappointed that she let herself be made up to compete and didn't go clean and natural.

I have never seen my mother wear any makeup or nail polish my entire life. She hates the stuff, and its probably why I like girls that don't wear it. The only times women look good is when its very very very sutble.

I don't like girls that wear bright nail polish or super red lip-stick. It looks so cheap... And I don't want someone that constantly fusses over something like their nails or color of their hair.

 

[rewebster]

What I am saying is that I look for my list of physical things, before I get to the more important mental things.

doesn't 'more important' usually mean they are more important (those mental things) than other things (physical things); and should, therefore, be logically the FIRST things (those mental things) to examine on the list first?

 

[rewebster]

I have never seen my mother wear any makeup or nail polish my entire life. She hates the stuff, and its probably why I like girls that don't wear it.

everything makes sense now

 

[Lacy33]

Yeah, I did. Let me tell you something, honey: I don't send you PM's asking you 'please tell me your 14, dear'. There was NO POINT to your PM other than to bust my balls. So I gave you exactly the answer you deserved, and was too modest really.

I highly doubt you have any victorian manners if you sent me such a PM. Or maybe you should have just put in more thought before you sent me a random stupid message like that.

I treat people how they treat me. You're the one that sent me a PM like that, not I. Dont open your mouth and talk to me like that when I never did the same to you.

Go see a shrink.....you're nuts.

What a gem!
I sent you that PM Victorian background and all because I was married in an arranged marriage to a middle eastern man from who I had to run for my life.
I don't know what kind of back ground you have, but...
I AM A SURVIVOR OF DOMESTIC VIOLENCE AND THIS IS EXACTLY HOW IT STARTS!
Ask any battered woman.
You can come to the shrink with me sweetie!Q

 

[Cyrus]

What a gem!
I sent you that PM Victorian background and all because I was married in an arranged marriage to a middle eastern man from who I had to run for my life.
I don't know what kind of back ground you have, but...
I AM A SURVIVOR OF DOMESTIC VIOLENCE AND THIS IS EXACTLY HOW IT STARTS!
Ask any battered woman.
You can come to the shrink with me sweetie!Q

...wow thanks for the generalization, I think?

I guess were all alike, sort of like black people, eh?

You have issues, talk to a shrink. I don't take smart comments from people like you, man or woman. Had you been a man, I would have told you the exact same thing. Dont play the sex card. You're a direspectful woman, and think you can get away with it by throwing in your "battered past". Get some class you claim to have.

I've been around lots of women, and I can smell BS a mile a way. It reeks right now.

 

[cristo]

doesn't 'more important' usually mean they are more important (those mental things) than other things (physical things); and should, therefore, be logically the FIRST things (those mental things) to examine on the list first?

No, because it's much easier to see if someone satisfies the physical criteria. It's like, in a very crude way, a job application. If you didn't have the necessary degree then the company would not invite you in for an interview and waste both of your time.

 

[rewebster]

...wow thanks for the generalization, I think?

I guess were all alike, sort of like black people, eh?

You have issues, talk to a shrink. I don't take smart comments from people like you, man or woman. Had you been a man, I would have told you the exact same thing. Dont play the sex card.

she may be saying that you sound like her ex---and even this post of yours, you're telling her what to do

 

[rewebster]

No, because it's much easier to see if someone satisfies the physical criteria. It's like, in a very crude way, a job application. If you didn't have the necessary degree then the company would not invite you in for an interview and waste both of your time.

only IF physical criteria are more important

that's why 'more important' is emphasized

 

[Cyrus]

she may be saying that you sound like her ex---and even this post of yours, you're telling her what to do

rewebster, you should get a life.

 

[Cyrus]

only IF physical criteria are more important

that's why 'more important' is emphasized

I don't think you comprehend how dating works. When you start dating, come back and talk. Dating starts with physical attraction.

 

[BobG]

I would never date a woman who would gossip ...

Talk about outrageously high standards!

I remember Dolores Keane talking about gossip in an interview about a song she and Iris Dement sang (When Irish Girls Grow Up). She said Irish women could gossip all they wanted, even though it was considered sinful, because when they went to mass, they just asked forgiveness beforehand.

 

[rewebster]

I don't think you comprehend how dating works. When you start dating, come back and talk. Dating starts with physical attraction.

well, obviously you know more than me (you think), and can tell others that their opinions aren't are good as yours----fine (I guess)--

 

[Cyrus]

well, obviously you know more than me (you think), and can tell others that their opinions aren't are good as yours----fine (I guess)--

Let me ask you then, what's the point of your comments? Do you think I am going to change anything I said here? This wasnt a let's change the way cyrus thinks thread. I made statements. You don't like them, fine. What do I care?

 

[George Jones]

Marriage isn't about commitment to love each other. It's about paying the mortgage for the rest of your life until you pass away. You get married because it's a little easier to make the mortgage payments.

That's it! ... I knew there was reason why I so much wanted to meet my wife and daughter at the airport. ... Because of mortgage!

 

[rewebster]

Let me ask you then, what's the point of your comments? Do you think I am going to change anything I said here? This wasnt a let's change the way cyrus thinks thread. I made statements. You don't like them, fine. What do I care?

well, I guess that is the point,---maybe you don't read into threads too much, but when people make really 'odd' comments, they should be prepared to have to defend them, as your post did about 'blemishes'.

no, I don't think, and others may not expect, you to change------why should you, right?

and, yes, I understand--"what do I care?"---what that means

 

[hypatia]

Physical attraction is important, and its important to maintain that attraction to each other many years down the road. With beauty being in the eye of the beholder, why would anyone think they have the right to tell someone else what they should or shouldn't like?

 

[turbo]

Yeah, BobG. Gossip and cliquey behavior in High School turned me off big time! It's a form of passive-aggressive bullying that should not be tolerated. I saw lots of kids hurt because of it, and I would not date any girl that engaged in it.

 

[Cyrus]

well, I guess that is the point,---maybe you don't read into threads too much, but when people make really 'odd' comments, they should be prepared to have to defend them, as your post did about 'blemishes'.

no, I don't think, and others may not expect, you to change------why should you, right?

What is odd to you is not odd to me. I don't have to defend anything to you, because I don't care if you agree or not. I am not trying to change your mind. I am stating the things that I like; thus, I don't have to justify jack squat to anyone.

 

[LowlyPion]

I don't think you comprehend how dating works. When you start dating, come back and talk. Dating starts with physical attraction.

Surely you are speaking for yourself.

There are all sorts of relationships and reasons for people to come together than merely the physical one that you seem so keen to focus on.

While your view may be representative of a particular class of people, even a large class of people, and while your view may be that this is why others date, you do not have the hubris to suggest that you speak for the whole class of all people that date, I should hope.

 

[rewebster]

What is odd to you is not odd to me. I don't have to defend anything to you, because I don't care if you agree or not. I am not trying to change your mind. I am stating the things that I like; thus, I don't have to justify jack squat to anyone.

yeah, I think I do understand where that attitude comes from---and, yes, you don't have to care what I think, or what anyone thinks

 

[Cyrus]

Surely you are speaking for yourself.

There are all sorts of relationships and reasons for people to come together than merely the physical one that you seem so keen to focus on.

While your view may be representative of a particular class of people, even a large class of people, and while your view may be that this is why others date, you do not have the hubris to suggest that you speak for the whole class of all people that date, I should hope.

I'd say that's a fair enough assessment.

 

[Cyrus]

yeah, I think I do understand where that attitude comes from---and, yes, you don't have to care what I think, or what anyone thinks

Let me put it this way. You might like a girl that looks polar opposite from what I like. Thats your choice. I don't care if you like that or not, and you don't have to explain it to me. If its what you like, then its what you like. You don't need to justify it to me.

 

[lisab]

Is it just me, or are PFers a tad testy today ?

 

[rewebster]

Let me put it this way. You might like a girl that looks polar opposite from what I like. Thats your choice. I don't care if you like that or not, and you don't have to explain it to me. If its what you like, then its what you like. You don't need to justify it to me.

well, since you know more than me (if that's what you think)---

and I agree with your statement:

What is odd to you is not odd to me.

I don't have to defend anything to you, because I don't care if you agree or not. I am not trying to change your mind. I am stating the things that I like; thus, I don't have to justify jack squat to anyone.

 

[LowlyPion]

Is it just me, or are PFers a tad testy today ?

Your imagination, surely.

 

[Lacy33]

Is it just me, or are PFers a tad testy today ?

Lisa,
I think "testy" would apply to men and I'm beginning to think not all the men involved here are 100% men.
I'm so sorry this happened.
It was such an enjoyable topic and I was so happy to share things of relationships with others.
My heart is breaking that this turned into a war, but Lisa, if a battered woman backs down, she looses a part of that soul that was saved when she successfully ran for her life.
This is an important topic and I think it should be discussed, But of course not here.

 

[rewebster]

you DO know what "testy" is short for, don't you?

(me, testy?)