Area between a line and a parabola

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The problem involves finding the area enclosed by the line y = x - 1 and the parabola y² = 2x + 6. Participants are exploring the setup and integration methods for calculating this area.

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Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the intersections of the line and parabola, with attempts to set up integrals for the area calculation. There are questions about the correctness of the integrand and the method of integration, including whether to integrate with respect to x or y.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided guidance on the setup of the integrals and suggested considering different methods of integration. There is an ongoing exploration of how to properly account for the boundaries of the area being calculated, with no clear consensus yet on the best approach.

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Participants are grappling with the complexity of the integrals and the potential for confusion in setting up the problem, particularly regarding the use of vertical versus horizontal strips for integration.

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Homework Statement



Find the area enclosed by the line y = x-1 and the parabola y^2 = 2x+6



Homework Equations

I don't think there are any special formulas or anything



The Attempt at a Solution



Well, I graphed the two given equations as √2x+6 and x-1 and got intersects at point (-1,-2) and (5,4).

A = ∫(√2x+6) - (-√2x+6)dx
A = 2∫(√2x+6)dx

then I used u substitution to get 2/3u^(3/2). I turned the u back to 2x+6 and then solved it for the limits -2 and -1 (Solved 2/3(2x+6)^3/2))

but then the numbers get weird and become really long decimals...which I doubt I should be getting. Where did I go wrong? :(
 
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Hi VWhitehawk! Welcome to PF! :wink:
VWhitehawk said:
A = ∫(√2x+6) - (-√2x+6)dx

but then the numbers get weird and become really long decimals...

Have you tried looking at it sideways, and integrating wrt y instead of x ? :smile:
 
VWhitehawk said:

Homework Statement



Find the area enclosed by the line y = x-1 and the parabola y^2 = 2x+6



Homework Equations

I don't think there are any special formulas or anything



The Attempt at a Solution



Well, I graphed the two given equations as √2x+6 and x-1 and got intersects at point (-1,-2) and (5,4).

A = ∫(√2x+6) - (-√2x+6)dx
A = 2∫(√2x+6)dx
Your integrand is incorrect. The left boundary is the parabola, and the right boundary is the line, which you seem to have neglected. If you use horizontal strips, you can use one integral, but if you use vertical strips (as you have done), you need two separate integrals.

VWhitehawk said:
then I used u substitution to get 2/3u^(3/2). I turned the u back to 2x+6 and then solved it for the limits -2 and -1 (Solved 2/3(2x+6)^3/2))

but then the numbers get weird and become really long decimals...which I doubt I should be getting. Where did I go wrong? :(
 
Oh, so the it should look like "∫((√2x+6) - (x-1))dx to take the line into account?

Not sure what you mean by doing it vertically, but from the way you say it, it sounds easier than doing it the horizontal way! lol
 
VWhitehawk said:
Oh, so the it should look like "∫((√2x+6) - (x-1))dx to take the line into account?
Here you are using vertical strips of width Δx. This won't work, since some strips run between the upper and lower parts of the parabola, while other strips run between the upper part of the parabola and the line. Since the strips are different, you need two different integrals.

Have you actually sketched a graph of the region?
VWhitehawk said:
Not sure what you mean by doing it vertically, but from the way you say it, it sounds easier than doing it the horizontal way! lol

Horizontal strips is width Δy are much simpler.
 
I have drawn it and the little rectangle too. I flipped the drawing sideways like you said but I just don't get what is supposed to be my integrand.
 
VWhitehawk said:
I have drawn it and the little rectangle too. I flipped the drawing sideways like you said but I just don't get what is supposed to be my integrand.
What little rectangle?

And what do you mean when you say you flipped the drawing sideways? tiny-tim was suggesting that you use horizontal strips, not that you turn the drawing sideways.
 

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