Area between two graphs as a sum

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The discussion focuses on calculating the area between two graphs defined by the equations \(y = 18 - x^2\) and \(y = x^2\) over the interval from \(x = -3\) to \(x = 3\). The area is determined using the summation formula for squares and the concept of Riemann sums, leading to the conclusion that the total area is 72. Key points include the correct interpretation of the factor of 2 in the area calculation and the necessity of adjusting the number of rectangles used in the approximation.

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Homework Statement


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Homework Equations


$$1^2+2^2+3^2+...+n^2=\frac{n(n+1)(2n+1)}{6}$$

The Attempt at a Solution


$$S_n=2\{[f_1(x_1)-f_2(x_1)]\Delta x+[f_1(x_2)-f_2(x_2)]\Delta x+...+[f_1(x_{n-1})-f_2(x_{n-1})]\Delta x\}$$
$$S_n=2\{[18-\Delta x^2-\Delta x^2]+[18-(2\Delta x)^2-(2\Delta x)^2]+...+[18-(n-1)^2\Delta x^2-(n-1)^2\Delta x^2]\}$$
$$S_n=2\{\Delta x[(n-1)18-2(1^2+2^2+...+(n-1)^2)\Delta x]\}$$
If i develop exactly according to the formula in the Relevant Equations then it's wrong
 
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Three questions:
  1. Why the factor of 2 in front?
  2. Why only n-1 terms? Aren't there n rectangles?
  3. Did you take into account the fact that ##\Delta x## depends on ##n##?
Also, I think you dropped a factor of ##\Delta x## on the second term.
 
It would be nice to know what Eq7 is (perhaps it is your summation equation?). What is the area of interest? The two curves intersect at x = -3 and x = +3.
Yes as @vela mentioned, delta x would be equal to the total x range, divided by n.
 
I calculate only the right half and double the result.
vela said:
  1. Why the factor of 2 in front?
I calculate only the right half and double the result.
  1. Why only n-1 terms? Aren't there n rectangles?
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The rectangle at the last ##~\Delta x##, between x3 and x4 is a line, it has area 0, but if you wish...
$$\frac{1}{2}S_n=[18-\Delta x^2-\Delta x^2]+[18-(2\Delta x)^2-(2\Delta x)^2]+...+[18-(n\Delta x)^2-(n\Delta x)^2]$$
$$\Delta x=\frac{3}{n}$$
$$\frac{1}{2}S_n=\Delta x[18n-(1^2+2^2+...+n^2)]=...=\frac{9(n+\frac{1}{5})(n-\frac{1}{2})}{2n^2}~\rightarrow~\frac{9}{2}$$
While the area, on both sides of the y axis, totals to 104
 
Karol said:
$$\frac{1}{2}S_n=\Delta x[18n-(1^2+2^2+...+n^2)]=...=\frac{9(n+\frac{1}{5})(n-\frac{1}{2})}{2n^2}~\rightarrow~\frac{9}{2}$$
Your set-up (in the first post) is fine, but your expression for ##S_n## is wrong. All I can say is check your algebra.

While the area, on both sides of the y axis, totals to 104
You might want to recheck this value as well. I get 72.
 
$$\frac{1}{2}S_n=\Delta x[18n-2\Delta x^2(1^2+2^2+...+n^2)]=\frac{9}{n^2}(4n^2-3n-1)$$
Embarrassing but i don't know to solve it. the roots are 2 and -1/2 but when i substitute them ##~4n^2-3n-1\neq 0##
$$\int_{-3}^3 18-x^2-\int_{-3}^3 x^2=\int_{-3}^3 18=18x\vert _{-3}^3=18\cdot 6=104$$
 
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Correction:
$$\frac{1}{2}S_n=\Delta x[18n-2\Delta x^2(1^2+2^2+...+n^2)]=\frac{9}{n^2}(4n^2-3n-1)=\frac{9}{n^2}4(x+\frac{1}{4})(x-1)$$
$$\frac{1}{2}S_n~\rightarrow~36, ~~S_n~\rightarrow~72$$
$$\int_{-3}^3 18-x^2-\int_{-3}^3 x^2=\int_{-3}^3 18-2x^2=72$$
Thank you Vela
 
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