Integral of a area under a straight line as summation

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The discussion revolves around the integral of the area under a straight line, framed within the context of summation techniques in calculus. Participants are exploring the relationship between summation formulas and the calculation of areas using Riemann sums.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants are attempting to express the area under a curve using Riemann sums and are discussing the implications of different summation techniques. There are hints provided to simplify the expressions and explore alternative methods, including the separation of even and odd terms in summation.

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The discussion is active with various approaches being explored. Some participants have provided hints to guide the original poster towards a clearer understanding of the problem, while others are questioning the reasoning behind certain methods. There is no explicit consensus yet, as different interpretations and methods are still being examined.

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Homework Statement


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Homework Equations


Summs:
$$1+2+3+...+n=\frac{n(n+1)}{2}$$
$$1^2+2^2+3^2+...+n^2=\frac{n(n+1)(2n+1)}{6}$$

The Attempt at a Solution


$$\Delta x=\frac{b}{n}$$
$$S_n=f\left( \frac{\Delta x}{2} \right)\Delta x+f\left( \Delta x+\frac{\Delta x}{2} \right)\Delta x+...+f\left( (n-1)\Delta x+\frac{\Delta x}{2} \right)\Delta x$$
$$S_n=\left( \frac{b}{2n} \right) \frac{b}{n}+\left( \frac{b}{n}+\frac{b}{2n} \right) \frac{b}{n}+\left( 2\frac{b}{n}+\frac{b}{2n} \right) \frac{b}{n}+...+\left( (n-1)\frac{b}{n}+\frac{b}{2n} \right) \frac{b}{n}$$
$$S_n=\frac{b^2}{2n^2}(1+3+5+...+2n-1)$$
But i was taught, in that chapter, only the two sums from the Relevant Equations
 
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Here's a hint to get you a better start. Let ##\Delta x_k = x_k - x_{k-1}## and ##c_k = \frac{x_k+x_{k-1}}{2}## with ##x_0=0,~x_n = b##. Then$$
S_n = \sum_{k=1}^n f(c_k)\Delta x_k =\sum_{k=1}^n \frac{(x_k+x_{k-1})}{2}(x_k - x_{k-1})$$Try simplifying that product in the sum and write out a few terms to see what happens. I don't think you will need any of your fancy sum formulas.
 
And if you want to continue with your attempt as well, consider the sum ##1+2+\cdots+(2n-1)+2n## and split it up into a sum of the even and odd terms.
 
LCKurtz said:
$$S_n = \sum_{k=1}^n f(c_k)\Delta x_k =\sum_{k=1}^n \frac{(x_k+x_{k-1})}{2}(x_k - x_{k-1})$$
$$S_n=\frac{x_1+x_0}{2}(x_1-x_0)+\frac{x_2+x_1}{2}(x_2-x_1)+\frac{x_3+x_2}{2}(x_3-x_2)+...+\frac{x_n+x_{n-1}}(x_n-x_{n-1})=...=\frac{1}{2}x_n^2$$
 
Karol said:
$$S_n=\frac{x_1+x_0}{2}(x_1-x_0)+\frac{x_2+x_1}{2}(x_2-x_1)+\frac{x_3+x_2}{2}(x_3-x_2)+...+\frac{x_n+x_{n-1}} 2 (x_n-x_{n-1})=...=\frac{1}{2}x_n^2$$
Do you see why it equals ##\frac{1}{2}x_n^2##? Did you multiply out the products in the sum as I suggested in post #2? Do you understand how to get the answer, or are you just copying stuff?
 
I know how to get to the answer, i just shortened. but i don't understand the other method suggested:
vela said:
And if you want to continue with your attempt as well, consider the sum ##1+2+\cdots+(2n-1)+2n## and split it up into a sum of the even and odd terms.
I calculated that ##~1+3+5+...+n=n^2##, but not as a split sum of even and odd numbers.
 

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