Area inside r=6sin(theta) but outside r=3

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The discussion revolves around finding the area of the region defined by the polar curve r=6sin(θ) while being outside the circle defined by r=3. The problem is situated within the context of polar coordinates and area calculations between curves.

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  • Participants discuss finding intersection points of the curves and integrating to find the area. There are questions about the appropriateness of using decimal approximations versus exact values in polar coordinates. Some participants suggest clarifying the formula for the area between polar curves and determining the correct limits of integration.

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Participants are actively exploring the problem, with some providing guidance on the formula for the area between polar curves and discussing the symmetry of the curves. There is an ongoing inquiry into the correct approach to finding the limits of integration and the implications of using exact values.

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There is a mention of the need to express values in terms of π, and the discussion highlights the importance of understanding the setup of polar coordinates in relation to the problem.

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Homework Statement



The title really says it all. Find the area of the region inside r=6sin(theta) but outside r=3.

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The Attempt at a Solution



I first found the x values where the two curves intersect and came up with .52359877 and 2.61799388. I then integrated 6sin(theta) (or, -6cos(theta)) from .52359877 to 2.61799388. The answer I got was 10.3923, but that's incorrect.
 
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RKOwens4 said:

Homework Statement



The title really says it all. Find the area of the region inside r=6sin(theta) but outside r=3.

Homework Equations





The Attempt at a Solution



I first found the x values where the two curves intersect and came up with .52359877 and 2.61799388. I then integrated 6sin(theta) (or, -6cos(theta)) from .52359877 to 2.61799388. The answer I got was 10.3923, but that's incorrect.

What's with all the decimals? Leave things in terms of pi. I don't believe those are x values. This is a polar coordinate problem, in terms of r and theta. You might start by stating the correct formula for the area between two polar curves expressed in terms of polar coordinates.
 
Okay, I found the formula for the area between two polar curves, which is:

1/2 Integral from B to A of (f2(theta)^2 - f1(theta)^2)

But what do I do about the r=3? And how do I find out what B and A are?
 
The two polar curves are symmetric about the y-axis, so you can find the area in the first quadrant and double it to get the entire area.

For b, you can use pi/2. For a, find the point of intersection in quadrant 1 of the two curves - use the exact value, not a decimal approximation.

For the outer curve, r = 6 sin(theta). For the inner curve, r = 3. These are the functions you're calling f1 and f2 (not necessarily in order).

This problem is very similar to the other problem you posted.
 

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