Area of a general n-sided polygon

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The discussion revolves around methods for calculating the area of a general n-sided polygon, particularly when given the lengths of the sides and a limited number of diagonals. It explores both theoretical approaches and practical applications, such as developing a mobile application for real estate professionals.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests that the area can be calculated by dividing the polygon into (n-2) triangles using Heron's formula, given the lengths of all sides and (n-3) specific diagonals.
  • Another participant questions the feasibility of this approach when the provided diagonals do not yield (n-2) triangles, indicating a potential difficulty in calculating the area.
  • Some participants mention that there are various methods for finding areas of general polygons, referencing external resources for further information.
  • One participant asserts that there is no established formula for calculating the area when only n sides and n-3 diagonals are known, suggesting that finding the coordinates of the vertices and their orientation is necessary.
  • A later reply emphasizes the importance of the orientation of vertex coordinates (counterclockwise vs. clockwise) in determining the area, particularly for complex polygons.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the methods available for calculating the area of an n-sided polygon, with no consensus on a single approach. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the best method to use when certain conditions are met.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include the dependence on the specific arrangement of diagonals and the necessity of knowing vertex coordinates for accurate area calculation. The discussion does not resolve the mathematical steps required to derive the area under the given conditions.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be of interest to land surveyors, real estate professionals, and individuals involved in geometry or computational applications related to polygon area calculations.

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Finding the area of an irregular polygon with n side is quite easy when we are given the length of all of the n sides and the length of (n-3) specific diagonals. This way, we get (n-2) triangles whose areas can be calculated using Heron's formula and then added up.
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But what if the length of the (n-3) diagonals provided doesn't make (n-2) triangles, such as this case:
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The polygon is still fully determined by the given measurements, but calculating the area is difficult.
Is there some sort of generic formula for such cases? Like maybe using matrices. :D

I thought of making a mobile application to help real-estates peoples calculate the area of lands, and came-up with this question.
Thank you.
 

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There are several different methods of finding areas of general polygons:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polygon

When you say 'real estate peoples', are you referring to land surveyors or someone else?
 
SteamKing said:
There are several different methods of finding areas of general polygons:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polygon

When you say 'real estate peoples', are you referring to land surveyors or someone else?


There is no formula for finding area when n sides and n-3 diagonals are known.
The surveyors formula seems to be the best way to go. So from the given information, I should somehow find the coordinates of all the vertices and also sort them counter clockwise or clockwise.

By real state peoples I just meant anyone who is involved in buying or selling of lands.
 
Well, in the US, the land surveyor is the professional who confirms and measures the boundaries of a particular plot of land. There is usually a legal description of the land produced for a deed of title to the land, which would contain the area enclosed by these boundaries.

The proper orientation for your vertex coordinates is counterclockwise to calculate the positive area of the figure. If you use a clockwise orientation, the result will be a negative area. This comes in handy if you want to evaluate the area of complex, non-convex polygons, say a polygon with a hole in it.
 

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