Area of a Triable with three vertices

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The discussion revolves around determining the area of a triangle defined by its vertices in three-dimensional space, specifically A(1,0,-5), B(-2,2,3), and C(-3,1,-1). The subject area includes vector mathematics and geometry.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the correct application of vector operations to find the area of the triangle, including cross products and the definition of area in this context. There are questions about the vectors used and the calculations performed.

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The conversation includes attempts to clarify the correct vectors and operations needed to compute the area. Some participants suggest reconsidering the vectors formed by the triangle's vertices and emphasize the importance of using the cross product rather than the dot product. There is acknowledgment of previous errors and a request for validation of revised calculations.

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Participants note that the original post contained errors and that the thread was moved from a different category. There is also mention of a misspelling in the thread title that cannot be corrected at this stage.

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Determine the area of a triangle with vertices A(1,0,-5), B(-2,2,3) and C(-3,1,-1).

1/2|a x b|

|a x b| = (1, 0, -5) x (-2, 2, 3)
= ((0)(3) - (2)(-5), (-5)(-2) - (3)(1), (1)(2) - (-2)(0))
= (10, 7, 4)

|(10, 7, 4)|
= sqr(10^2 + 7^2 + 4^2)
= sqr(165)

(1/2)(sqr(165)) = 6.42

Therefore the area of the triangle is approximately 6.42 square units.
 
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1. this isn't calculus
2. you should really explain where you got vectors a and b from.
3. why are you dotting when you should be crossing?
4. do you know the definition of area for a triangle with vertices A,B,C?
 
First you have the vector wrong: neither (-3,1,-2) nor (4,-5,2) is a vector between two of the vertices. Second, the area of a triangle where the vectors a, b form two sides is NOT (1/2)|a.b|, it is (1/2)|axb|.
 
Sorry, my first post was a complete mess. Please see the revised post above.

Thanks, Chaotic. I am aware this is not Calculus. However, the geometry posts I made yesterday were moved here so I figured I would save the mods a step...

I am also aware that triangle is misspelled in the header but I can not correct it at this point.
 
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Does this look right? I keep thinking I should be using point C as well.
 
ND3G said:
Does this look right? I keep thinking I should be using point C as well.

yes, you would be right in thinking this.

look at points A,B,C; maybe try making vectors out of those points? then crossing some of them?
 
Ok, how about this:

|a| = (1, 0, -5) x (-2, 2, 3)
= ((0)(3) - (2)(-5), (-5)(-2) - (3)(1), (1)(2) - (-2)(0))
= (10, 7, 4)
=|(10, 7, 4)|

|b| = (-2,2,3) x (-3, 1, -1)
=((2)(-1) - (1)(3), (3)(-3) - (-1)(-2), (-2)(1) - (-3)(2))
=(-5,-11,4)
=|(-5, -11, 4)|

|a x b| = (10, 7, 4) x (-5,-11,4)
=((7)(4)-(-11)(4), (4)(-5)-(4)(10), (10)(-11)-(-5)(7))
=(72, -60, -75)
=(24, -20, -25)
=|(24, -20, -25)|

sqr(24^2 + (-20)^2 + (-25)^2) = 40
(1/2)(40) = 20
 

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