Area of Plane Region Bounded by Curve: Find Solution

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The problem involves finding the area of a plane region bounded by the curve defined by the equation \((x^2+y^2)^3 = x^4+y^4\). The discussion centers around the application of change of variables in double integrals, particularly focusing on identifying suitable new variables for integration.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants explore the use of change of variables, specifically considering \(u = x^2 + y^2\) and \(v = 2xy\) as potential substitutions. Questions arise regarding how to effectively solve for \(x\) and \(y\) in terms of \(u\) and \(v\) and the implications of the resulting transformations.

Discussion Status

Some participants express uncertainty about the complexity of the transformations and the resulting graphs, suggesting that the transformations may not yield a straightforward curve. Others propose the use of polar coordinates as an alternative approach, indicating a shift in direction for the discussion.

Contextual Notes

There is mention of graphed results and the need to compute the Jacobian for the transformations discussed. Participants also note constraints related to the nature of the curve and the region of interest in the xy-plane.

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Homework Statement



Find the area of the plane region bounded by the curve
$$
(x^2+y^2)^3 = x^4+y^4
$$

Homework Equations


The change of variables formula:
$$
\int\int_R F(x,y)dxdy = \int\int_S G(u,v)\left| \frac{∂(x,y)}{∂(u,v)}\right| dudv
$$

The Attempt at a Solution



I recognize this as a change of variables problem, and in general I understand how to do change of variables, but for this one I cannot figure out what to use as the new variables u = u(x,y) and v = v(x,y). Previously I could tell what I needed by inspection, but I cannot tell with this problem. Is there some method for directly computing what u and v must be?

I thought of using {u = x^2 + y^2} and {v = x^4 + y^4}, but I can't figure out how to use this to solve for x and y, so I reached a dead end.

Any help would be appreciated.
 
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bluskies said:

Homework Statement



Find the area of the plane region bounded by the curve
$$
(x^2+y^2)^3 = x^4+y^4
$$

Homework Equations


The change of variables formula:
$$
\int\int_R F(x,y)dxdy = \int\int_S G(u,v)\left| \frac{∂(x,y)}{∂(u,v)}\right| dudv
$$

The Attempt at a Solution



I recognize this as a change of variables problem, and in general I understand how to do change of variables, but for this one I cannot figure out what to use as the new variables u = u(x,y) and v = v(x,y). Previously I could tell what I needed by inspection, but I cannot tell with this problem. Is there some method for directly computing what u and v must be?

I thought of using {u = x^2 + y^2} and {v = x^4 + y^4}, but I can't figure out how to use this to solve for x and y, so I reached a dead end.

Any help would be appreciated.

Try \displaystyle u=x^2+y^2\ \ \text{ and }\ \ v=2xy\,.
 
Thank you for your help! Using the above change of variables, I solved for x and y in terms of u and v (to compute the Jacobian \frac{∂(x,y)}{∂(u,v)}):

v = 2xy \Rightarrow y = \frac{v}{2x}

u = x^2+y^2=x^2 + \frac{v^2}{4x^2} \Rightarrow 4x^4-4ux^2+v^2=0

Let z=x^2. Then

4z^2-4uz+v^2=0 \Rightarrow z = \frac{1}{2}\left( u \pm \sqrt{u^2-v^2} \right)

\Rightarrow x = \sqrt{ \frac{1}{2}\left( u \pm \sqrt{u^2-v^2} \right) }

\Rightarrow y = \frac{v}{2\sqrt{ \frac{1}{2}\left( u \pm \sqrt{u^2-v^2} \right) }}

The curve becomes

u^3 = x^4+y^4 = (x+y)^4 - 2xy(2y^2+3xy+2x^2) = (u+v)^2-4xy(x+y)^2+2x^2y^2 = (u+v)^2 - 2v(u+v)+\frac{1}{2}v^2 = u^2-\frac{1}{2}v^2

\Rightarrow u^3 = u^2-\frac{1}{2}v^2

This seems overly complicated, like I made a mistake somewhere, but I cannot find it - does it look correct? Also, when I graphed the new curve, I got the below graph, so I think I didn't do something right. Isn't it supposed to be a nice curve?
 

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bluskies said:
Thank you for your help! Using the above change of variables, I solved for x and y in terms of u and v (to compute the Jacobian \frac{∂(x,y)}{∂(u,v)}):

v = 2xy \Rightarrow y = \frac{v}{2x}

u = x^2+y^2=x^2 + \frac{v^2}{4x^2} \Rightarrow 4x^4-4ux^2+v^2=0

Let z=x^2. Then

4z^2-4uz+v^2=0 \Rightarrow z = \frac{1}{2}\left( u \pm \sqrt{u^2-v^2} \right)

\Rightarrow x = \sqrt{ \frac{1}{2}\left( u \pm \sqrt{u^2-v^2} \right) }

\Rightarrow y = \frac{v}{2\sqrt{ \frac{1}{2}\left( u \pm \sqrt{u^2-v^2} \right) }}

The curve becomes

u^3 = x^4+y^4 = (x+y)^4 - 2xy(2y^2+3xy+2x^2) = (u+v)^2-4xy(x+y)^2+2x^2y^2 = (u+v)^2 - 2v(u+v)+\frac{1}{2}v^2 = u^2-\frac{1}{2}v^2

\Rightarrow u^3 = u^2-\frac{1}{2}v^2

This seems overly complicated, like I made a mistake somewhere, but I cannot find it - does it look correct? Also, when I graphed the new curve, I got the below graph, so I think I didn't do something right. Isn't it supposed to be a nice curve?
I think that's all right. I got the same graph.

I transformed the expression by noticing that \displaystyle u^2=(x^2+y^2)^2=x^4+2x^2y^2+y^4\,.

So subtract 2v2 from that to get x4+y4 .

Of course, (x2+y2)3 was obvious.

I haven't looked at the resulting integral, but solving for v is fairly easy:
v=\pm\sqrt{2(u^2-u^3)}=\pm|u|\sqrt{2}\sqrt{1-u}\,.​

Your graph is consistent with this from the point of view that the loop corresponds to 0 ≤ u ≤ 1. \sqrt{1-u} is real there.

Have you worked out the Jacobian yet?
 
After looking at the graph of u^3 < u^2-v^2, I also have my doubts about this transformation.
 
SammyS said:
After looking at the graph of u^3 < u^2-(v^2)/2, I also have my doubts about this transformation.
Before I go on about my previous suggestion for a translation, have you tried polar coordinates? ...

After messing around with a few sets of ordered pairs and a few other details, like graphing the region in the xy-plane, I like this transformation again.

Here's WolframAlpha's graph of the region in the xy-plane, along with the graphs of two circles, one with radius 1 the other with radius = 1/√(2) :
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Here's WolframAlpha's graph of the region in the xy-plane, along with the graph of y = ±x .
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Since x2 + y2 ≥ 0, u ≥ 0, for the region of interest.

The point (x,y)=(a, ±a) → (u,v)=(2a2, ±2a2), where the signs are correlated.
Specifically, the point (x,y)=(1/2, ±1/2) → (u,v)=(1/2, ±1/2) .​

The point (x,y)=(±a,0) → (u,v)=(a2,0) also the point (x,y)=(0, ±a) → (u,v)=(a2,0) .
Specifically, the points (x,y)=(±1,0) and (x,y)=(0, ±1) all go to (u,v)=(1,0)​
 

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Definitely, use polar coordinates.
 

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