Artificial Intelligence vs Human Intelligence

[wuliheron]

We have only one peculiarity: our new abilities of toolmaking and that's why we're sometimes called Homo Faber (partly because of the flexible oddly-positioned thumb on our hands).

Humans have the ability to run after a moving target and throw a rock of swing a stick at it. No other animal has this ability which is only partly due to our opposible thumb. Chimps use sticks all the time, sometimes to sneak up behind each other and bash their brains in, but they can't sprint. We can sprint fast enough to catch a horse. Notably, the opposible thumb and the agile physiology to do these things evolved before the human brain nearly tripled in size during the last ice age and one third of our brain is devoted to vision.

I can't understand your point here. I was told M-theory is the summation the current five variants of string theory (none of which I know the least about) that is supposed to do for all of them, is that wrong?

M-theory is a purely mathematical theory without a shred of physical evidence to support it. The only reason it is considered a cutting edge physics theory is because has swallowed whole the mathematics of every other theory devised to date and is doing the same for mathematics in general.

I've come across some mathematicians who've complained that physicists are allowed much more freedom in their work than mathematicians. Unlike the mathematicians who are constrained to rigorous proofs, physical theorists are allowed significantly more freedom. As I said, physics has diverged from mathematics a great deal in the last century and is only now beginning to converge again thanks to M-theory. If you want to know more I suggest Machio Kaku's book, "Hyperspace".

These indistinguishable machines are called Turing machines, I guess. A perfect Turing machine hasn't been built yet. Please give a link to a source that confirms the making of a perfect Turing machine.

A Turing machine is a whole nother animal. All I've said is programs have passed the Turing Test.

http://cogsci.ucsd.edu/~asaygin/tt/ttest.html

 

[C0mmie]

Originally posted by wuliheron A Turing machine is a whole nother animal. All I've said is programs have passed the Turing Test.

Manuel_Silvio war right regarding the Turing machine. Every year the contestant closest to passing the test is awarded the prize, but the test has yet to be passed.

 

[wuliheron]

Parts of the Turing test have been passed, and contestents are getting closer than ever before. The main point is that people can be fooled by such programs which are still in the infantile stage of development.

 

[Mentat]

A problem that I'm noticing, in this discussion, is the degratory use of the word "machine". By definition, the human body is a machine, so calling a man-made computer a "machine" doesn't make any distinction betwixt it and us.

 

[Iacchus32]

Originally posted by Mentat
A problem that I'm noticing, in this discussion, is the degratory use of the word "machine". By definition, the human body is a machine, so calling a man-made computer a "machine" doesn't make any distinction betwixt it and us.

What's the diff? Just like your computer, the human mind processes information too ...

 

[Mentat]

Originally posted by Iacchus32
What's the diff? Just like your computer, the human mind processes information too ...

That's what I was saying. It is the other members that are differentiating between the two. I was trying to correct that.

 

[greeneagle3000]

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what's the big idea? it's our fault if they go against us, we mad it that way.
but as radiohead says, we need people with hammers.