ASTM A572: Temperature Effects on Yield

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The discussion revolves around the temperature effects on yield strength for ASTM A572 steel grades. Participants seek references and data regarding how temperature influences the yield properties of this material, which is not explicitly detailed in the standard specifications.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant requests references for ASTM A572 that include temperature effects on yield, noting that the standard only provides room temperature specifications.
  • Another participant suggests checking the structural steel forum at Eng Tips for previous discussions on the topic.
  • A participant mentions their specific need for an I beam that does not fall under typical structural engineering requirements, indicating a unique application.
  • One contributor provides a list of references and sources for material properties, including various ASM handbooks and notes that ASTM standards do not specify performance criteria, which must be determined by the end user.
  • A participant considers using yield suppression curves from plain 1020 steel as a potential substitute for A572, pending feedback from metallurgy experts.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the availability of temperature effect data for ASTM A572, and multiple viewpoints regarding the use of alternative materials and references are presented.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights limitations in the ASTM A572 standard regarding temperature effects and the reliance on external sources for material properties. There is also uncertainty regarding the applicability of yield suppression curves from other materials.

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Does anyone happen to know of a good reference for ASTM A572 (any grade) that lists temperature effects on yield? The standard only lists room temperature specs.

Thanks
 
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Q_Goest said:
Hi Fred,
You might want to try the structural steel forum at Eng Tips.
http://www.eng-tips.com/threadminder.cfm?pid=679&page=1

There was already some discussion of this:
http://www.eng-tips.com/viewthread.cfm?qid=61347
Hey Q. Good to see you.

Thanks. I keep forgetting about Engineering Tips. I'll float by there too. Thanks also for the thread link. Luckily I am not designing for a structure, in their sense. I have a very particular need for an I beam that definitely does not fall under the usual structural engineering umbrella.
 
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Most of the data in MatWeb has been supplied directly by companies in the supply chain - most often the manufacturers, or, less commonly, distributors or fabricators. Other data has been taken from standards organizations or from similar materials/known relationships by the MatWeb staff. For more information about this specific material, see the following source(s):


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ASM Specialty Handbook - Carbon and Alloy Steels, edited by J.R. Davis, Davis & Associates, ASM International, Metals Park, OH, (1996).

Engineering Properties of Steels, Philip D. Harvey, editor, American Society for Metals, Metals Park, OH, (1982).

Metals Handbook, Vol.1 - Properties and Selection: Irons, Steels, and High-Performance Alloys, ASM International 10th Ed. 1990.

Metals Handbook, Howard E. Boyer and Timothy L. Gall, Eds., American Society for Metals, Materials Park, OH, 1985.

Physics for Scientists and Engineers with Modern Physics, 2nd ed., Douglas C. Giancoli, Prentice Hall Publishers, Englewood Cliffs, NJ (1989)

SAE Ferrous Materials Standards Manual, 1999 ed., HS-30, Society of Automotive Engineers, Inc., Warrendale, PA, (1999).


For ASTM A572 Grade 42
http://www.matweb.com/search/DataSheet.aspx?MatID=14023

Four grades are avaiable - 42, 50, 60 and 65, which represent min RT YS in ksi. The material's strength depends on composition and thermo-mechanical processing (e.g. controlled rolling and accelerated cooling methods).

ASTM materials standards are intended to provide some specifications for manufacturing and product acceptance in order to assure quality and uniformity of product. The ASTM standards do not provide performance criteria or characteristics. That must be determined by the end user.
 
Thanks Astro.

I was looking at the composition and the properties of both the A572 and plain 1020, I am wondering if I couldn't just use the curve for 1020 yield suppression and call it a day. I am still waiting on my metallurgy guys to get back to me on this.
 

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