Atomic and Ionic Radii in Relation to Periodic Trends

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The discussion focuses on the relationship between atomic and ionic radii, particularly in metals and their comparison to noble gases. It establishes that atomic radii decrease across periods and increase down groups, with exceptions in the 4th and 5th periods due to d and f block orbitals. The conversation highlights that a metal's +1 ionic radius can be larger than that of the element with one fewer proton, emphasizing the importance of understanding ionic radii in relation to atomic structure. The participants seek clarification on the discrepancies in ionic radii sizes among transition metals like Fe and Mn.

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1. I am a metal. My atomic radius is smaller than the atomic radius of the element with one fewer protons, but my +1 ionic radius is larger than the +1 ionic radius of the element with one fewer protons. Of the two elements in my group that have biological importance, I am the one with higher electro-negativity.

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3. So, atomic radii size decreases across periods but increases down periods with the slight abnormalities in the 4th and 5th period once the d and f block orbitals are introduced. Originally I was thinking that this might apply to a group 1 metal, however all are larger than the noble gasses that have one less electron. Then I thought that Fe [Ar] 4s2 3d6 would be smaller than Mn [Ar]4s2 3d5 but fell down when Fe+ [Ar] 3d7 would still be smaller than Mn+ [Ar] 3d6. It would be greatly appreciated if someone could assist not only with the question itself but also with the differences relative ion radii sizes (which seems to be why I can not find an answer to this problem)

Thanks in advance for any assistance
 
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Originally I was thinking that this might apply to a group 1 metal, however all are larger than the noble gasses that have one less electron.
That is a good approach, but this comparison (group 1 / noble gas) is needed for the +1 ionic radii where you have one electron less...
 

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