I Atomic Structure: Why Does Energy Decrease with Orbit Number?

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Electrons require a minimum energy threshold to transition between orbits, but this energy decreases as the orbit number increases. The energy needed to shift from the first to the second orbit is significantly greater than from the second to the third, and this trend continues with higher orbits. The explanation for this phenomenon lies in the increased spatial separation of orbits, which allows external forces to exert more influence, thus requiring less energy for transitions between higher orbits. However, some participants question the validity of this reasoning, suggesting that bonding strength ratios would remain consistent regardless of external factors. Understanding this concept is crucial for grasping atomic structure and energy levels.
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Why does transition energy decrease with increase in orbit number?
I have read that an electron requires certain minimum energy of threshold frequency to move an orbit

However the energy needed decreases with increase in shell number

The transition energy is reduced with each orbit

For example

The energy to shift an electron from 1st to 2nd orbit is much greater than that required to shift it from 2nd to 3rd (which is greater than from 3rd to 4th and so on)

This is what I don't understand
(Why is it greater)
No one seems to give the right answer

Please explain
 
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Look up the energy-level formula for hydrogen, which is the simplest atom. Calculate the energy levels for n = 1, 2, 3, 4. Maybe a few more values of n. Draw an energy-level diagram to scale, using these numbers. You should be able to see the pattern very clearly.

The book shown above almost certainly has a diagram like this. You can also find many similar diagrams (and the formula) with a Google search for "hydrogen energy levels."

If you really meant to ask, "why is the energy-level formula what it is?" then the answer is "solve the time-independent Schrödinger equation (specifically the radial portion) for the hydrogen atom."
 
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Aurelius120 said:
TL;DR Summary: Why does transition energy decrease with increase in orbit number?

I have read that an electron requires certain minimum energy of threshold frequency to move an orbit

However the energy needed decreases with increase in shell number

The transition energy is reduced with each orbit

For example

The energy to shift an electron from 1st to 2nd orbit is much greater than that required to shift it from 2nd to 3rd (which is greater than from 3rd to 4th and so on)

This is what I don't understand
(Why is it greater)
No one seems to give the right answer

Please explain
The more spread out the orbit is the more leverage or influence outside forces have on said orbit...therefore less energy is required to move from one orbit to the next larger one than was required for the prior jump.
 
OdiGeo said:
The more spread out the orbit is the more leverage or influence outside forces have on said orbit...therefore less energy is required to move from one orbit to the next larger one than was required for the prior jump.
That clearly makes no sense since the ratio of bonding strength of orbitals would be the same if the atom were the only atom in the universe.
 
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