Australian HSC mathematics extension 2 exam Polynomial

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This problem involves a polynomial from the Australian HSC mathematics extension 2 exam, specifically focusing on the properties of its roots. The polynomial is defined as P(x)=x^3+qx^2+qx+1, with one known zero being -1. The discussion centers around showing relationships between the roots, particularly for complex roots.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the implications of complex roots occurring in conjugate pairs and their moduli. There is an exploration of the conditions under which the roots are real or imaginary, particularly focusing on the quadratic factor derived from the polynomial.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants providing insights and questioning assumptions about the nature of the roots. Some guidance has been offered regarding the conditions for the roots to be imaginary and the implications of the quadratic's discriminant being negative.

Contextual Notes

Participants are considering the range of the parameter q, specifically questioning how to justify that q must lie within certain bounds to ensure the existence of imaginary roots.

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Homework Statement


This problem is from the Australian HSC mathematics extension 2 exam. Q6b)

It states:

b) Let [tex]P(x)=x^3+qx^2+qx+1[/tex], where q is real. One zero of P(x) is -1

i) Show that if [itex]\alpha[/itex] is a zero of P(x) then [tex]\frac{1}{\alpha}[/tex] is a zero of P(x)

ii) Suppose that [itex]\alpha[/itex] is a zero of P(x) and [itex]\alpha[/itex] is not real.
(1) show that [tex]|\alpha|=1[/tex]
(2) show that [tex]Re(\alpha)=\frac{1-q}{2}[/tex]


The Attempt at a Solution



i) I was able to answer this one

ii) (1) I was uncertain about this one so I fudged the answer, but for a quick and unsatisfactory answer, I went with the idea that if [itex]\alpha[/itex] and [itex]1/\alpha[/itex] are complex roots to a real polynomial, then the roots must occur in conjugate pairs and thus have the same modulus. Actually... also

[tex]P(x)=x^3+qx^2+qx+1\equiv (x+1)(x^2+(q-1)x+1)[/tex]

The quadratic factor: [tex]x=\frac{1-q\pm\sqrt{(q-3)(q+1)}}{2}[/tex]
Thought I had it... guess not...

ii) (2) I scabbed the answer from the quadratic (without really understanding why it works) that [tex]Re(z)=Re(\alpha)=\frac{1-q}{2}[/tex]
This is the part without the surd. Also, unsure of a correct approach to the answer.

Help for these 2 parts would be greatful.
 
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For part ii, the idea that they have to come in conjugate pairs sounds good to me. What did you find wrong with it?

For the last part notice [tex] x=\frac{1-q\pm\sqrt{(q-3)(q+1)}}{2}[/tex] is real unless the part inside the square root is negative. If that's negative, what's the real part of the number?
 


for ii) I thought that while I was able to show that[tex]|\alpha|=|\frac{1}{\alpha}|[/tex], I wasn't able to show they're both equal to 1. But now that I look at it again, for a complex number [itex]\alpha[/itex] and its reciprocal to be equal, they must have a mod of 1.

for iii) well yes the real part is ofcourse obvious, but this assumes that [tex](q-3)(q+1)<0[/tex] thus [tex]-1<q<3[/tex]
How do I explain/show that q is in fact in this range? Or can I just assume it because the question specifically stated that the roots are imaginary?
 


If it's not in that range, then you've found all the roots, and they are real. But one of them has to be imaginary, so that's a contradiction
 


I understand now. Thanks for your help Office_Shredder :smile:
 

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