Average force exerted by momentum

Click For Summary
SUMMARY

The discussion centers on calculating the average force exerted during a collision between two cars, specifically a 10 kg car traveling at 10 m/s that collides with another vehicle. The initial momentum is calculated as 100 kg*m/s, and the average force is derived from the change in momentum divided by time. The correct time must account for uniform deceleration post-impact, which was initially miscalculated as 1 second. The discussion highlights the necessity of knowing the mass of the second vehicle to accurately determine the average force.

PREREQUISITES
  • Understanding of momentum and its calculation
  • Knowledge of Newton's laws of motion
  • Familiarity with the concept of uniform deceleration
  • Basic principles of energy conservation in collisions
NEXT STEPS
  • Study the calculation of momentum in collisions, focusing on elastic and inelastic collisions
  • Learn about uniform deceleration and how to calculate time during such motion
  • Explore the relationship between force, distance, and energy in collision scenarios
  • Investigate how to apply conservation of momentum in multi-object collisions
USEFUL FOR

This discussion is beneficial for physics students, educators, and anyone interested in understanding collision dynamics and the principles of momentum and force in mechanics.

PhizKid
Messages
477
Reaction score
2

Homework Statement


A car of mass 10 kg hits another car at 10 m/s and they both come to rest at the same time. In the process, the car that was hit moved back 10 meters. What is the average force exerted on it?


Homework Equations


Average force = change in momentum divided by time


The Attempt at a Solution


I'm taking it so everything is going to the right, so positive rightwards.
Final momentum is 0. Initial is 10kg * 10m/s so: Average force = -100kg*m/s (because final - initial) divided by the time which is 1 second I think. 10m = 10m/s * t = 1 second.
So -100kg*m/s divided by 1 second = -100N.

But this is wrong. I can't find my error but I'm told I calculated the time incorrectly. How do I get the correct time?
 
Physics news on Phys.org
If it only took 1 sec, the speed of the first car would have to be 10m/s for the whole second (then suddenly 0). To get the time, you have to assume uniform deceleration after the impact. That's reasonable, but worse is that you are not told the mass of the second vehicle, so you don't know what the speed is just after impact. So to get an answer you'll have to assume they're the same mass.
I've a nasty feeling that the questioner intends you to use energy = force * distance. That will give you the force averaged over distance, but that is not the same as the force averaged over time.
 

Similar threads

  • · Replies 9 ·
Replies
9
Views
1K
Replies
1
Views
2K
  • · Replies 6 ·
Replies
6
Views
3K
Replies
19
Views
2K
  • · Replies 10 ·
Replies
10
Views
1K
  • · Replies 35 ·
2
Replies
35
Views
4K
Replies
57
Views
3K
  • · Replies 6 ·
Replies
6
Views
2K
  • · Replies 10 ·
Replies
10
Views
2K
Replies
4
Views
1K