Balancing Equations: Al + H2SO4 to Al3+ + SO42- + SO2 + H2O

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The discussion focuses on balancing the redox reaction involving aluminum and sulfuric acid. The equation to balance is Al + H2SO4 → Al3+ + SO42- + SO2 + H2O. Participants emphasize the importance of determining the correct oxidation states for sulfur in both sulfate (SO42-) and sulfur dioxide (SO2) to facilitate balancing. The oxidation states of sulfur are identified as +6 in sulfate and +4 in sulfur dioxide, leading to confusion about which to use for calculating changes in oxidation numbers. The conversation concludes with a request for clear steps to balance the entire reaction, including the aluminum component.
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balancin an equation!

hello everybody,
i just got back from my chemistry class, with some homework...
it s about balancin equations (hard ones) and they are relating to the lesson of oxidation-reduction...
here is one of them that i have to balance--
if someone can show me the steps to take, that would be awesome :) because i have like 5 more to do...

Al + H2SO4 --> Al 3+ + SO4 2- + SO2 + H2O

thank you :)

oh yeah, the problem in this equation is that i have SO4 2- and SO2
so to determine the number of oxydation for S
should it be -8 or -4 ==> should i use SO4 -2 or SO2

when i know what to use, i ll see the change of this number, then what ?
 
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use both {SO}^{-2}_4 and SO_2
gah sorry i can't get the LaTeX to work ...
 
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hmm
so would i use the oxydation number of -8 or -4
 
for {SO}^{-2}_4 the oxidation number of sulfur is +6 (O is -2, the total charge is -2, so -2 \times 4 + S = -2 and S = +6

the oxidation number of S in SO_2 is +4
 
okay, so when i want to see the change of the number of oxidation S, to find the coefficient for balancin the reaction; would i do:
(+6) - (+6) = 0
or
(+4) - (+6) = -2

??
thanks
 
yeah, that's right.
 
ummm... i think i asked for WHICH ONE TO USE!
...
 
oh haha sorry. you need to use both of them

so write a redox half reaction for both

dont forget the Al
 
still don't get how to really do it... if anyone can give me some steps for this one!
thanks
 
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