Ballistic pendulum change in kinetic energy problem

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The problem involves a ballistic pendulum scenario where a bullet of mass M is fired into a block of wood of mass m, resulting in a change in kinetic energy as the bullet embeds itself in the wood and causes it to swing upwards by a height h. The participants are tasked with calculating the change in kinetic energy from the bullet to the combined bullet and wood system.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the expressions for initial and final kinetic energy, with some questioning the correctness of the initial velocity formula. There are attempts to clarify the relationship between the masses and the resulting velocities, as well as the need to find the difference between initial and final kinetic energy.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing feedback on each other's expressions for kinetic energy and velocity. There is a sense of urgency expressed by one participant regarding the deadline for the homework, indicating a need for further clarification and assistance.

Contextual Notes

Participants are working under time constraints, with one expressing anxiety about submitting the homework by the next day. There is also mention of consulting textbooks and teachers for additional help.

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Homework Statement



a bullet of mass M is fired into a block of wood of mass m, the bullet sticks in the wood and causes it to swing upwards by height h

calculate the change in kinetic energy from the bullet to the bullet+wood


Homework Equations



kinetic energy = 1/2MV^2
V = SQRT (2gh)
Inital speed = m+M / m Sqrt(2gh)

so initial kinetic energy is 1/2 M m+M / m Sqrt(2gh)
final kinetic energy is 1/2 M + m SQRT (2GH)



The Attempt at a Solution



i know i need to divide final EK by initial EK but i am not sure if i have all the equations correct as when i try and do this i can't get to an answer

can anyone help>
 
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Since mass of the bullet is M, your expression for initial velocity is wrong. Check it.
They expect to find (initial KE - final KE)
 
rl.bhat said:
Since mass of the bullet is M, your expression for initial velocity is wrong. Check it.
They expect to find (initial KE - final KE)

i have had another look and I am not sure if i should cancel the m's as they don't apply yet this would give me

Ini Vel = M SQRT(2gh)

is this better ?
 
No.
Vi = (m+M)/M*sqrt(2gh)
 
ok then so where am i going wrong ? i have been thru my textbook and asked my teacher but i just can't get it right, i think the problem is with the formula for inital KE but however i go thru it i get the same result,

this needs to be in tomorrow so i am having a panic now

thanks
 

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