Barometric Pressure Sensor Port

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around selecting a barometric pressure sensor for use as an altimeter in a kite project. Participants explore different sensor models, their specifications, and the implications of port design on performance in windy conditions.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant is considering three specific barometric pressure sensors, noting that the only difference among them is the design of the nozzle (female, male facing up, male facing to the side) and speculating that the male port may be less affected by wind noise.
  • Another participant explains the difference between ported and non-ported sensors, suggesting that non-ported sensors are ideal for altimeters while ported sensors can be used for testing with a tube attached, raising questions about the necessity of a port for altitude measurement.
  • A third participant expresses uncertainty about the sensitivity of automotive barometric sensors and shares their experience with data acquisition systems, implying that the choice of sensor may depend on the reading method used.
  • A later reply reiterates the distinction between ported and non-ported sensors, clarifying that the port is for attaching a hose and not for shielding, while also expressing concern about the voltage limitations of the sensors being considered.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on which sensor design is best for the kite project. There are competing views on the necessity and functionality of ported versus non-ported sensors, and the discussion remains unresolved regarding the optimal choice.

Contextual Notes

Participants express varying levels of familiarity with sensor calibration and application, and there are references to specific voltage outputs and calibration methods that may not be fully explored in the discussion.

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I'm looking for a barometric pressure sensor to use as an altimeter in my project.

I've narrowed it down to these three:

http://www.mouser.com/Search/ProductDetail.aspx?R=MPX2102ASXvirtualkey55700000virtualkey841-MPX2102ASX
http://www.mouser.com/Search/ProductDetail.aspx?R=MPX2102APvirtualkey55700000virtualkey841-MPX2102AP
http://www.mouser.com/Search/ProductDetail.aspx?R=MPX2100Avirtualkey55700000virtualkey841-MPX2100A

Same price, same specs, the only difference is in the nozzle. One is female, one is male facing up, one is male facing to the side.

I'm going to be (hopefully) using these sensors on a kite, so there will be some wind. Which of these would be the best?

My naive guess is that the male port would be less affected by wind noise, but I'm not sure.
 
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I took a look at the http://www.freescale.com/webapp/sps/site/prod_summary.jsp?code=RD1979MPXM2102A&parentCode=null" using this series of sensors. From what I gather, the non ported sensors are used for altimeters and the ported sensors can have a tube attached for testing. This port can be used to do two point calibrations of the electrons the sensor is attached to.

from the app note said:
A non-ported MPAK is the ideal pressure sensor package for hand held GPS units or altimeter watches due to its small size. However, a ported MPAK package can also be selected, allowing a tube to be attached to the port for testing and demonstration purposes.

There are two forms of calibration for this system. The first calibration is used for the barometer part of the system. This calibration was already done before you received the reference design and only needs to be done once per system. To calibrate the barometer module, a two-point calibration is performed using a highly accurate pressure generator.

I'm assuming you're wanting to determine your kites altitude from the barometric pressure, so why have port? The non-ported sensors is what's used for measuring an absolute barometric pressure.
 
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I'm not sure how sensitive the ones used to measure vacuum/pressure as found in automobiles but I doubt they are sensitive enough.

I do know that mitsubishi, honda, and some nissan ecus from the early 80s to the early 90s used "baro sensors" both on the board of the ecu and some mounted to the passenger a pillar (hondas around 1986 to 1989).

I'm not sure what you will be using to read them but I use this 8 channel data acquisition hub and custom applications that use "lookup tables" to net you the proper readings in pressure.

That's assuming you are interested in using industry standard 0-5v.

http://www.dlpdesign.com/usb/io8.shtml

io8a.jpg
 
dlgoff said:
I took a look at the http://www.freescale.com/webapp/sps/site/prod_summary.jsp?code=RD1979MPXM2102A&parentCode=null" using this series of sensors. From what I gather, the non ported sensors are used for altimeters and the ported sensors can have a tube attached for testing. This port can be used to do two point calibrations of the electrons the sensor is attached to.





I'm assuming you're wanting to determine your kites altitude from the barometric pressure, so why have port? The non-ported sensors is what's used for measuring an absolute barometric pressure.
Thanks for that link. I've saved it and I'll be sure to review it.

The port was confusing me because I didn't know it was for a hose. I thought it might be for shielding or something, that's why I asked.

Though I'm having to rethink my sensor choice anyway, since the maximum voltage of those is only 40 mV.
 
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