Baseball Throws: Energy Conservation & Solutions

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The discussion revolves around a physics problem related to energy conservation in baseball throws, specifically examining the final velocities of objects in free fall and their relationship to initial conditions.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the application of energy conservation equations and kinematic relationships to determine final velocities. Questions arise regarding the equality of final velocities under the same initial conditions and the implications of potential energy at different heights.

Discussion Status

Some participants express confidence in their reasoning about the equality of final velocities, while others seek clarification on potential mistakes in their understanding. There is a mix of agreement on the conceptual approach, but no definitive consensus on the correctness of the reasoning presented.

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Participants mention the constraints of homework submission systems and external tools, indicating potential frustrations with the process rather than the physics concepts themselves.

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Energy conservation et al.

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I think that all of the final velocities will be equal, but I am not sure how to show this mathematically. Seems like a trick question.
 
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[tex]mgh_{i} + \frac{1}{2}mv_{0}^{2} = mgh_{f} + \frac{1}{2}mv_{f}^{2}[/tex]
[tex]gh_{i} + \frac{1}{2}v_{0}^{2} = gh_{f} + \frac{1}{2}v_{f}^{2}[/tex]
Final potential energy is zero at the ground, so:
[tex]gh_{i} + \frac{1}{2}v_{0}^{2} = \frac{1}{2}v_{f}^{2}[/tex]
Which gives that:
[tex]gh_{i} = \frac{1}{2}v_{f}^{2} - \frac{1}{2}v_{0}^{2}[/tex]
 
I see that it turns into a familiar kinematic equation. I end up with:

[tex]v_{f}= \sqrt{2gh+v_{i}^{2}}[/tex]

Since the initial velocity of all the balls is the same, gravity is the same, and the displacement, well height, is the same, wouldn't that give me that the final velocity is equal to a constant in all cases, and thus they are all equal? Is this correct thinking?
 
I put them as all the same, and it's incorrect? What mistake am I making here?
 
Your thinking is correct--they are all the same. Your automated answer submission machine is having a fit.
 
It figures. I sent my professor an email on the question. Masteringphysics is so annoying. Thanks for the help.
 

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