Basic Conversion from Translational Motion Equation

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The discussion centers on the derivation of the time equations t = sqrt(2h/g) and t = Vo*sqrt(2h/g) from standard translational motion equations. The correct equation, t = sqrt(2h/g), applies only when the initial velocity (Vo) is zero. The participant highlights a mathematical error in the simplification process, clarifying that sqrt(a^2 - b^2) does not equal a - b. The correct formulation for time in a free-fall scenario is t = sqrt[(2h - 2Vot)/g], emphasizing the importance of understanding initial conditions in motion equations.

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Studying for the MCAT, and trying to figure out how t = sqrt(2h/g) and t = Vo*sqrt(2h/g) is derived from the standard translational motion equations.

h = change in h
t = change in t

thus...

h = volt + 1/2g(t)^2
h - volt = 1/2g(t)^2
(2h)/g - (2Vot)/g =t^2
sqrt(2h/g) - sqrt(2Vot)/g = t

Obviously, I don't know how to simplify it further.

Thanks.
 
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TrueBlood said:
Studying for the MCAT, and trying to figure out how t = sqrt(2h/g) and t = Vo*sqrt(2h/g) is derived from the standard translational motion equations.
Those equations cannot both be correct--they have different dimensions!

Only the first is correct, and only when Vo = 0.
 
TrueBlood said:
h = volt + 1/2g(t)^2
h - volt = 1/2g(t)^2
(2h)/g - (2Vot)/g =t^2
sqrt(2h/g) - sqrt(2Vot)/g = t
Also realize that your last step is mathematically incorrect:

\sqrt{a^2 - b^2} \ne a - b

For example sqrt(5^2 - 3^2) = sqrt(16) = 4 ≠ 5 - 3
 
The last step, mathematically correct, would be...

sqrt[(2h-2Vot)/g] = t

and in a free-fall equation, where Vo = 0, then t = sqrt(2h/g)

I found out t = Vo*sqrt(2h/g) when you are trying to find the range (r = volt) and using t = sqrt(2h/g) when you don't have t.
Thx.
 
TrueBlood said:
The last step, mathematically correct, would be...

sqrt[(2h-2Vot)/g] = t

and in a free-fall equation, where Vo = 0, then t = sqrt(2h/g)
Good.

I found out t = Vo*sqrt(2h/g) when you are trying to find the range (r = volt) and using t = sqrt(2h/g) when you don't have t.
Careful. That equation as written makes no sense. You probably meant to use r instead of t. And t = sqrt(2h/g) would only be half the time for the full trajectory.
 

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