Basic question about energy conservation

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The discussion centers on the principles of energy conservation in the context of artificial muscles, specifically how temperature changes affect material contraction. A user questions the source of energy when a metal bar contracts and lifts a heavy weight after cooling, mistakenly implying energy creation. Experts clarify that no extra energy is generated; instead, the energy is released from the tension already stored in the material. The conversation emphasizes the importance of understanding mechanical and thermal properties in evaluating such scenarios.

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Hello

I just read this http://io9.com/scientists-just-created-some-of-the-most-powerful-muscl-1526957560 where they explain a new type of revolutionary artificial muscle.

The principle of operation is very simple: when a material gets hotter, it contracts and generates a force. I already knew materials can expand or contract when their temperature vary, but it looks like i haven't thought about it deeply enough.

If I have a thin bar of a metal tied to the roof, and 1 ton of iron tied to the bar. Then, I spend 1 watt of energy to cool the bar, and it contracts by 1 cm. This contraction lifts the ton of iron, increasing its potential energy by much more than 1 watt. Loos like I'm creating energy, which of course its not possible, but that's my question: where is that energy coming from?

Best regards
 
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Hi mcolom, welcome to PF!

There is no extra energy in this system. These materials are loaded under tension in order to form the artificial muscle. That loading under tension requires a substantial amount of energy. The heat doesn't provide much, if any, of the energy. It merely triggers the release of the energy that is already stored.
 
mcolom said:
Hello

I just read this http://io9.com/scientists-just-created-some-of-the-most-powerful-muscl-1526957560 where they explain a new type of revolutionary artificial muscle.

The principle of operation is very simple: when a material gets hotter, it contracts and generates a force. I already knew materials can expand or contract when their temperature vary, but it looks like i haven't thought about it deeply enough.

If I have a thin bar of a metal tied to the roof, and 1 ton of iron tied to the bar. Then, I spend 1 watt of energy to cool the bar, and it contracts by 1 cm. This contraction lifts the ton of iron, increasing its potential energy by much more than 1 watt. Loos like I'm creating energy, which of course its not possible, but that's my question: where is that energy coming from?

Best regards
Did you actually run any calculations using the real mechanical and thermal properties of iron to evaluate this? My guess is that you are just pulling numbers out of the air. When you do run the calculations, you will find that energy is not being created. One other issue: the watt is a unit of power, not energy.
 

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