Beam current of positrons and electrons

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The discussion focuses on calculating the beam current of positrons and electrons through a series of steps involving energy and wavelength calculations. The initial step correctly identifies the energy from the annihilation process using E=2mc^2. However, confusion arises regarding the use of photon wavelength for positrons and the appropriate voltage to consider. The calculation for the number of positrons per second needed is clarified as P/E, where P is power and E is energy from the first step. It is emphasized that the beam current should only account for positrons, as electrons are not part of the beam.
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Homework Statement
a. If a positron beam were to be used as an annihilation cutting tool, calculate the beam current that would deliver 100 kW.

b. What voltage would be needed to accelerate beam of electrons so that, at the same beam current, it could deliver the same power from mechanical collisions with the target?
Relevant Equations
##E=mc^2##

##E=hf##

##\lambda = \frac h p##

##\frac{1}{2} mv^2 = q.V##

P = V.I
a) My idea is:
1. Find the energy created by annihilation process, which is ##E=2mc^2## where m is the mass of electron
2. Find the wavelength of photon by using formula E = hf
3. Find the speed of positron by using the formula of de broglie wavelength
4. Find the p.d by using conservation of energy: ##\frac{1}{2} mv^2 = q.V##
5. Find current by using P = V.I

I am not sure at step (3) because I use the wavelength of photon as wavelength of positron. Can I do this?

b) I just use P = V.I to find V, which is the same as what I found in part (a) step (4)

Am I correct? Thanks
 
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Step 1 looks good. None of the rest made much sense to me. A positron is not a photon. And what voltage do you think you are finding?

After step 1, how many positrons/sec are needed?
 
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haruspex said:
Step 1 looks good. None of the rest made much sense to me. A positron is not a photon. And what voltage do you think you are finding?
I am thinking about accelerating voltage to accelerate the positron

haruspex said:
After step 1, how many positrons/sec are needed?
Number of positrons per second needed = ##\frac{P}{E}## where P is the power given by the question and E is the energy calculated in step 1

Next I multiply the result by charge of positron to get the beam current. Is this correct?

For b), is it correct to just apply P = V.I ?

Thanks
 
songoku said:
Number of positrons per second needed = ##\frac{P}{E}## where P is the power given by the question and E is the energy calculated in step 1
Wait, should I multiply ##\frac{P}{E}## by 2? I imagine for the annihilation process, the positron and electron will move towards each other then collide so both of them will contribute to the beam current

Thanks
 
songoku said:
Wait, should I multiply ##\frac{P}{E}## by 2? I imagine for the annihilation process, the positron and electron will move towards each other then collide so both of them will contribute to the beam current

Thanks
The electrons are in the target, not leaping out if it. Besides, you are asked for the beam current of the positrons.
 
Thank you very much haruspex
 
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