Beat Frequency of 2 Waves in Free Space

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The discussion revolves around the beat frequency of two waves with different wavelengths, specifically λ1 = 1.5μm and λ2 = 1.63μm, expressed in the form of a combined wave equation. Participants are tasked with finding the beat frequency resulting from these waves in free space.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the need to superpose the two waves and analyze the resulting intensity variations over time. There are inquiries about how to derive frequency from wavelength and the implications of wave speed in free space. Some express uncertainty about the type of waves involved and the assumptions that can be made.

Discussion Status

The conversation is ongoing, with participants exploring different interpretations of the problem and questioning the assumptions regarding wave speed and type. Some guidance has been offered regarding the relationship between wavelength and frequency, but no consensus has been reached on the best approach to take.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the assignment may contain vague or misleading elements, which adds to the complexity of understanding the problem. There is also a mention of previous experiences with plotting data, which some find challenging.

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Homework Statement


Two waves of different wavelengths λ1= 1.5μm, λ2 = 1.63μm, are combined in free space Et = 1.5cos(k1x - ω1t) + 2cos(k2x -ω2t)
Find the beat frequency

Homework Equations


1- ω2) = 2ωm=beat frequency

E02 = 4E012cos2(kmx - ωmt)

The Attempt at a Solution


I am quite stuck on this problem. Can I get a numerical solution for question with what I've been given?
 
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nmsurobert said:
I am quite stuck on this problem. Can I get a numerical solution for question with what I've been given?

first you must superpose the two waves and see the waxing and waning of sound intensities and count its frequency per second.
that can be simply done on a plot of amplitude with time graph.
your amplitudes are different -so the destructive interference will not necessarily produce a zero intensity but the envelope of intensity and its maximum and minimum values will give you beat frequency.
so proceed ahead.
 
nmsurobert said:

Homework Statement


Two waves of different wavelengths λ1= 1.5μm, λ2 = 1.63μm, are combined in free space Et = 1.5cos(k1x - ω1t) + 2cos(k2x -ω2t)
Find the beat frequency

Homework Equations


1- ω2) = 2ωm=beat frequency
Yes, you need to determine the beat frequency which is half the difference of frequencies of the constituent waves. You are given the wavelengths. What are the frequencies?
What kind of waves they are?
 
ehild said:
Yes, you need to determine the beat frequency which is half the difference of frequencies of the constituent waves. You are given the wavelengths. What are the frequencies?
What kind of waves they are?
I don't know what kind of waves they are. I wrote the question as it is on the paper. I've been trying to figure out a way to find the frequency but I feel like I'm missing something.
 
drvrm said:
first you must superpose the two waves and see the waxing and waning of sound intensities and count its frequency per second.
that can be simply done on a plot of amplitude with time graph.
your amplitudes are different -so the destructive interference will not necessarily produce a zero intensity but the envelope of intensity and its maximum and minimum values will give you beat frequency.
so proceed ahead.
Asking me to plot something isn't going to help haha he's been asking us to plot stuff all semester and I haven't been able to figure out how to plot any of this stuff.
 
nmsurobert said:
I don't know what kind of waves they are. I wrote the question as it is on the paper. I've been trying to figure out a way to find the frequency but I feel like I'm missing something.
How do you get the frequency from the wavelength of the wave?
 
ehild said:
How do you get the frequency from the wavelength of the wave?
The only way I've found how to do this is v = fλ. However, I don't know what the velocity of the way is unless I assume the velocity is c.
 
nmsurobert said:
The only way I've found how to do this is v = fλ. However, I don't know what the velocity of the way is unless I assume the velocity is c.
Yes, the speed of the wave is crucial. it is said, the wave travels in free space. What do you think free space means? Was the original text English?
 
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It was in English. I'll just assume that then. Sometimes the assignments are either vague or misleading for the class so I try not too assume too much. Thank you though! That makes the problem much easier lol
 

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