Beginner's question about antennas

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The discussion revolves around the feasibility of using multiple antennas within a single large dish satellite setup to transmit different types of signals, including broadband radio, ultrasonic, and microwave GPS signals. Participants explore the potential for interference and the technical challenges involved in such an arrangement.

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  • One participant inquires about the possibility of fitting multiple antennas in a dish and using bandpass filters to minimize interference.
  • Another participant notes that similar arrangements exist in high-end radars and radio telescopes, but questions the utility for simultaneous tracking of independent targets.
  • A different viewpoint suggests that WiFi antennas should not be directed skyward and mentions successful directional WiFi antennas made from Pringle cans.
  • Concerns are raised about the appropriateness of placing a GPS antenna in a dish due to the nature of GPS satellites' orbits and the need for a 360-degree view.
  • Another participant questions how to position the antennas at the focus of the dish and suggests using a broadband antenna with filters to separate signals, while also highlighting the challenges of integrating an ultrasonic detector.

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Participants express differing views on the practicality and effectiveness of using multiple antennas in a single dish setup, with no consensus reached on the best approach or configuration.

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Participants mention various technical considerations, such as the need for specific antenna types and the challenges of signal separation, without resolving the complexities involved.

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Can multiple antennas share a dish without interference?
Hello!

This may be an obvious idea and I feel silly for asking this, but just out of curiosity, if I have a large dish satellite where I could fit three antenna transmitters in the center that send different types of signals (a broad-band radio antenna, an ultrasonic antenna/sensor, and a microwave radio GPS antenna [an additional one that I also thinking about is a wifi one, but overall I'm considering just giving it its own dish]) if those three antennas were connected to bandpass filters, could I successfully create a multi antenna dish that transmits different signals without much interference?
 
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Such arrangement is quite common in high-end radars and radio-telescopes. It is called "multibeam antenna". Not very useful for simultaneous tracking of independent targets as seems to be your case though.
 
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But WiFi you don't want to point to the sky. People have built very successful directional WiFi antennas from old Pringle cans.
 
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shushi said:
Summary: Can multiple antennas share a dish without interference?

and a microwave radio GPS antenna

You don't was a GPS antenna (GPS is receive) in a dish, as the satellites are not fixed in orbit,
rather they are many different orbits all over the sky.
GPS antennas are usually "relatively" fixed and have a horizon to horizon 360 deg view
 
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How will you place them all in the same position, at the focus? Multiband antennas are possible but not easy. Why not use the broadband antenna and then separate the signals with filters. You seem to be interested in just the 1 to 2 GHz region.
By the way, the ultrasonic detector is not radio so will need a solid dish, and of course, it cannot utilise the broadband antenna.
 

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