Behavior of a function for large x?

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The discussion revolves around the behavior of a specific function as the variable approaches large values, particularly focusing on the asymptotic relationship of a series involving logarithms and the Riemann zeta function. The scope includes mathematical reasoning and exploration of series expansions.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses uncertainty about how to demonstrate that a function approaches a quadratic for large values and seeks resources on the topic.
  • Another participant suggests expanding the function into a Taylor series at a different point, indicating a potential method for analysis.
  • A specific problem is introduced, where the function involves a sum of logarithms and is proposed to approach a quadratic form related to the Riemann zeta function as x becomes large.
  • A later post outlines a mathematical relationship involving the zeta function and suggests starting with the Taylor series for the exponential function to derive asymptotic behavior.
  • One participant expresses gratitude for the suggestions provided by another participant.

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Participants have not reached a consensus on the approach to take or the specific methods to apply, indicating that multiple viewpoints and methods are being explored without resolution.

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The discussion includes references to the Taylor series and the Riemann zeta function, but the limitations of these approaches in the context of the specific problem remain unresolved.

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Need to learn how to analyze the asymptotic behavior of functions
I have a problem asking to show that a certain function approaches a quadratic for large values of the variable. And I realize now that this is a skill with which I am totally unfamiliar. Can't use a Taylor series in y= 1/x because the value at y=0 is infinite. Would appreciate a recommended resource that covers this topic.

I would like to post the specific problem but I don't know how to post equations here. Is there a how-to page?
 
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A bit more details would be fine. Maybe you could expand it into a Taylor series at another value.
pellman said:
I would like to post the specific problem but I don't know how to post equations here. Is there a how-to page?
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The specific problem is to show that

## x \sum_{p=1} ^\infty \ln \left( \frac 1 { 1 - e^{-p/x}} \right) ##

approaches

## \frac { \pi^2} {6} x^2 ##

for large x. So we could drop the leading x and just show that the sum is linear for large x. I know that the pi^2 / 6 comes from ## \sum_{p=1}^\infty \frac 1 {p^2} ##
 
So we have to show
\begin{align*}
\zeta(2)x&\sim\sum_{p=1}^\infty \ln\left(\dfrac{1}{1-e^{-p/x}}\right) \\
&= -\ln\left( \prod_{p=1}^\infty (1-e^{-p/x})\right)\\
&\Longleftrightarrow\\
e^{\zeta(2)x}&\sim\prod_{p=1}^\infty \dfrac{1}{1-e^{-p/x}}
\end{align*}
and ##\zeta(2)=\displaystyle{\dfrac{\pi^2}{6}=\prod_{p\text{ prime }}\dfrac{1}{1-p^{-2}}=\sum_{p=1}^\infty \dfrac{1}{p^2}}##

I would start with the Taylor series for ##e^{-p/x}## and try to get an asymptotic behavior that goes with ##1/p^2## in the summation.

If this shouldn't work, I would look for formulas and integration tricks in the realm of the zeta function. There are so many formulas around, that I bet there is one which fits.
 
Thanks, fresh_42
 

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