Bell's Inequality is only valid for non-negative numbers

In summary, the Bell Inequality tests are only valid for positive numbers, which is reasonable because counts and probabilities cannot be negative. CHSH experiments generate a negative number, which means they are invalid. The test used by CHSH is different from the equation mentioned in the conversation, as it involves calculating the value of E and S using the number of occurrences of specific events.
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harpo
The Bell Inequality tests are only valid for positive numbers, which is reasonable because counts and probabilities cannot be negative. CHSH generates a negative number, which means CHSH experiments are invalid.

Bell's Inequality can be violated by having a negative value.

For example:
P(a,b) -P(a,d)+P(c,b)+P(c,d) <= 2
Which can be calculated as
a+b-a-d+c+b+c+d / a+b+c+d <=2
with
a=1, b=2, c=3 and d= - 4
then
1+2-1-(-4)+3+2+3+(-4) / 1+2+3+(-4) <= 2
10 /2 <= 2
5 <= 2

Is this correct?
 
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harpo said:
The Bell Inequality tests are only valid for positive numbers, which is reasonable because counts and probabilities cannot be negative. CHSH generates a negative number, which means CHSH experiments are invalid.

:welcome:

CHSH experiments yield results consistent with the predictions of QM. If you make assumptions that are invalid - as the Bell paper does - then it is possible you will obtain predictions inconsistent with experiment. That is what is happening here, the assumptions of locality and realism cannot both be valid.

By the way, your usage of P(a,b) -P(a,d)+P(c,b)+P(c,d) is not in accordance with its intended meaning by CHSH. But that is not important, as mentioned the experiments are valid for the intended purposes.
 
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The test used by CHSH is:
E = (N11 + N00 - N10 -N01) / (N11 + N00 + N10 + N01)
S = E1 -E2 + E3 + E4

How does that differ from
P(a,b) -P(a,d)+P(c,b)+P(c,d) <= 2 ?
 

1. What is Bell's Inequality?

Bell's Inequality is a mathematical expression that describes the relationship between two or more particles in a quantum system.

2. Why is Bell's Inequality only valid for non-negative numbers?

Bell's Inequality is based on the assumption that the values being measured are non-negative, meaning they cannot be less than zero. This is a fundamental property of quantum mechanics.

3. How is Bell's Inequality used in scientific research?

Bell's Inequality is used to test the validity of quantum mechanics theories and to make predictions about the behavior of particles in quantum systems.

4. Can Bell's Inequality be applied to all types of particles?

Yes, Bell's Inequality can be applied to any type of particle that follows the rules of quantum mechanics.

5. What would happen if Bell's Inequality was violated?

If Bell's Inequality was violated, it would indicate that the particles in the quantum system are not behaving according to the principles of quantum mechanics, which would require a re-evaluation of our understanding of the universe at a fundamental level.

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