Bemoulli equation ( flow in pipe)

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The discussion revolves around the application of the Bernoulli equation to determine the flow characteristics in a pipe, specifically whether the flow is laminar or turbulent at two different temperatures (30°C and 80°C). Participants explore the calculation of the Reynolds number and the implications for flow type, as well as the friction factors associated with the flow.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant states that the Bernoulli equation indicates energy per unit weight is constant for a frictionless flow and provides specific parameters for the fluid and pipe.
  • Another participant suggests that the critical Reynolds number for distinguishing laminar from turbulent flow is 2300, while acknowledging that 2000 is also a commonly used threshold.
  • A third participant questions the calculation of the Reynolds number, indicating a potential misunderstanding in the use of units and the formula for fluid velocity.
  • One participant challenges the use of specific values in the Reynolds number calculation, asking for clarification on the units used for density and suggesting a review of the definition of the dimensionless Reynolds number.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the critical Reynolds number value, with some suggesting 2300 and others 2000. There is also uncertainty regarding the calculations and the proper application of units in determining the Reynolds number.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved issues regarding the assumptions made in the calculations, particularly concerning the fluid velocity and the definitions of the parameters used in the Reynolds number formula.

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the bemoulli equation states that the energy per unit weight for a frictionless slow is constant.
water at:
30degree c = 0.801kgm-1s-1
80degree c = 0.357kgm-1s-1
Radiator 15kw
delta T= 5degree c
cp = 4.2kj/kgk
pipe diameter 40mm

is the flow in the pipe laminar or turbulent at 30 and 80 degree respectively

what are the friction factors?

i have the followin equation.

reynolds number = velocity of fluid x density x diameter of pipe divided by viscosity of fluid.

so i have 5x4.2x0.40 divided by0.801 = 10.48for 30
and 5x4.2x0.4 divided by 0.357= 23.53for 80

have i gone completely wrong as i was taught anything over 2000 is turbulant flow and anything under 2000 was laminar
 
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I learned 2300 whas the dividing line but 2000 might just be another good guide value.
From what I see in your calculation of the Reynolds number you seem to have multiplied 5 C * 4.2 kJ/kg*K to calculate the fluid flow in meters/sec ? Check the units
 
15 x 0.801 x 0.4 divided by 4.2 = 1.144?

just using my formula the first part is the velocity of the fluid. i havnt been given this. do i rearange the formula or??
 
5x4.2x0.40 divided by0.801 = 10.48for 30

You have inserted 4.2 of what excatly for the density? Please refer to Wiki for a proper definition of the dimensionless Re-number.

In units: (m/sec * kg/m^3 * m) / (kg/m*sec) = kg*m/sec / (kg/m*sec) = [-] unitless
Check your answer using this type of units control.
 

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