Bending moments at equillibrium

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The discussion revolves around the concept of bending moments in a prismatic member subjected to equal and opposite couples. Participants explore the conditions of equilibrium and the distribution of internal forces and moments across different cross sections of the member, questioning the uniformity of these moments and the physical interpretation of bending stresses.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions how every cross section of a beam can have the same moment when bending moments are applied, suggesting that the ends would experience greater moments away from the center of mass.
  • Another participant prompts the construction of a free body diagram for the beam to analyze the forces and moments acting on a segment of the beam, indicating that this could clarify the equilibrium conditions.
  • A participant expresses confusion regarding the physical interpretation of internal forces, asking if they should be understood as being distributed uniformly to counteract the moment.
  • It is noted that bending stresses are not uniformly distributed to counteract the bending moment, unless interpreted as being constant along the length of the beam due to the local bending moment being equal to the applied couple.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the distribution of bending moments and stresses, with some agreeing on the need for a free body diagram to clarify the situation, while others remain uncertain about the physical interpretation of the internal forces involved.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved questions regarding the assumptions made about the uniformity of internal forces and the physical implications of bending moments across different sections of the beam.

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"Consider a prismatic member AB possessing a plane of symmetry and subjected to equal and opposite couples M and M0 acting in that plane . We observe that if a section is passed through the member AB at some arbitrary point C, the conditions of equilibrium of the portion AC of the member require that the internal forces in the section be equivalent to the couple M"Could anyone provide me the proof of this? It seems little weird to me. if we applie bending moment on a beam, it would likely that each end side would experience greater moment(away from centre of mass).

How could every cross section have the same moment?
 
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kidsasd987 said:
"Consider a prismatic member AB possessing a plane of symmetry and subjected to equal and opposite couples M and M0 acting in that plane . We observe that if a section is passed through the member AB at some arbitrary point C, the conditions of equilibrium of the portion AC of the member require that the internal forces in the section be equivalent to the couple M"Could anyone provide me the proof of this? It seems little weird to me. if we applie bending moment on a beam, it would likely that each end side would experience greater moment(away from centre of mass).

How could every cross section have the same moment?
Have you constructed a free body diagram for the beam in this condition?

Take a segment of the beam AC as described above, put all of the forces and moments which act on AC on a diagram, and see what must happen for segment AC to remain in equilibrium.
 
SteamKing said:
Have you constructed a free body diagram for the beam in this condition?

Take a segment of the beam AC as described above, put all of the forces and moments which act on AC on a diagram, and see what must happen for segment AC to remain in equilibrium.
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I understand that it will balance out but I am confused with the physical interpretation. Should I interpret this in this way, just like stress, internal force will be distributed 'uniformly to counteract the moment?
 

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kidsasd987 said:
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I understand that it will balance out but I am confused with the physical interpretation.Should I interpret this in this way, just like stress, internal force will be distributed 'uniformly to counteract the moment?
Bending stresses are not distributed uniformly to counteract the bending moment, unless you mean that the stresses are distributed uniformly along the length of the beam (i.e., the stress in each cross section is the same, because the local bending moment is constant and equal to the applied couple M.)
 
SteamKing said:
Bending stresses are not distributed uniformly to counteract the bending moment, unless you mean that the stresses are distributed uniformly along the length of the beam (i.e., the stress in each cross section is the same, because the local bending moment is constant and equal to the applied couple M.)
Thanks!
 

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