Bessel functions in vector field

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The discussion revolves around the properties and applications of Bessel functions within the context of a specific vector field expressed in cylindrical coordinates. Participants explore the divergence of the vector field and seek to evaluate integrals involving Bessel functions, particularly focusing on orthogonality relations and integral identities.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents a vector field and seeks to express its divergence and evaluate a specific integral involving the field's components.
  • Another participant claims to have found the divergence of the field, stating it as \( \nabla\cdot\vec{A}= kJ_m(kr)\cos(\phi) \), using recursive formulas for Bessel derivatives.
  • A participant inquires about the orthogonality relations of Bessel functions and poses a specific integral involving Bessel functions of different orders.
  • One participant provides a reference to a source that discusses the orthogonality of Bessel functions, but expresses that it does not directly assist with their specific integral problem.
  • Another participant shares two integral formulas related to Bessel functions, asking if there are additional relations for Bessel functions of different orders.

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Participants generally agree on the properties of Bessel functions and their relevance to the problem at hand, but there is no consensus on the specific integral identities or the best approach to solve the posed integrals.

Contextual Notes

Participants express uncertainty regarding the derivation of certain integral formulas and the existence of additional relations for Bessel functions of different orders. The discussion does not resolve these uncertainties.

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I need to solve this general problem. Let's consider the following vector field in cylindrical coordinates:
\vec{A}=-J'_m(kr)\cos(\phi)\hat{\rho}+\frac{m^2}{k}\frac{J_m(kr)}{r}\sin(\phi)\hat{\phi}+0\hat{z}

where m is an integer, and k could satisfy to:
J_m(ka)=0 or J_m'(ka)=0 with a real.
(the apex is used for the derivative respect to r)

In this case I need to express the divergence of the field and the following integral:
\int_0^a\int_0^{2\pi}(|A_r|^2+|A_\phi|^2)r\,dr\,d\phi

Is it possible to found simpler analytical formulas for general m for the results?
Where can I found useful relationships for the bessel integrals involved? thank you.
 
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For the divergence of the field I found:

\nabla\cdot\vet{A}= kJ_m(kr)\cos(\phi)

using recursive formulas for the Bessel derivatives.

I still need help for the integrals, in particular does the bessel functions have particular orthogonality relation that admit to solve:

\int J_m(x) J_n(x) x\,dx = ?
 
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Ok, but that relation does not help me so much. In this example I need to solve an integral of the form:
\int_0^a J_{m+1}(kr)J_{m-1}(kr) r\,dr

I found only two useful formulas (that include the result of eq. 53):

\int J_m(kx)J_m(lx)x dx=\frac{x}{k^2-l^2}[kJ_m(lx)J_{m+1}(kx)-lJ_m(kx)J_{m+1}(lx)]

\int J_m^2(kx)x dx=\frac{x^2}{2}[J_m'^2(kx)+(1-\frac{m^2}{k^2x^2})J_m^2(kx)]

Now my question is: there are other relations for Bessel functions of different order? (Jm, Jn). I do not know how these formulas are obtained...
 
I don't know if the attached formula could help you :
 

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