Best Dosimeter for 10 ns Pulse Dose Measurement

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The discussion centers on the best dosimeter for measuring 10 ns pulse doses, particularly in the context of an FXR machine used for radiography. Participants conclude that thermoluminescent dosimeters (TLDs) are suitable due to their rapid response time, while pocket dosimeters based on ion chambers are less effective due to their bulk and low spatial resolution. For real-time readings, scintillation counters and Geiger counters are deemed inadequate due to their limitations with short pulse durations. Calibration of instruments is emphasized as crucial for accurate readings.

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Which type of dosimeter is best for pulse short (duration let say 10 ns) dose measurement purpose?
 
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None? By definition a dosimeter measures dose over time. Or do you mean pulses over time?

10ns pulses sounds.....odd. can you say exactly what the application is?
 
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russ_watters said:
10ns pulses sounds.....odd. can you say exactly what the application is?
Let's just say that he has a unique job in the industry... :wink:

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None? By definition a dosimeter measures dose over time. Or do you mean pulses over time?

10ns pulses sounds.....odd. can you say exactly what the application is?
If I want to measure the dose of FXR machine which may be use for radiography purpose. Such a machine produce output x-ray pulse of ns wedth.
 
I think a thermoluminescent dosimeter (TLD) would be a good possibility since response time is irrelevant.
 
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What is your idea about pocket dosimeter based on ion chamber ?
 
That depends on what you will be using it for; since it is bulky it has low spatial resolution compared to a
TLD for example.

EDIT: to be clear it has to be uniformly irradiated.
 
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If you do not need real-time readings, the old-style photographic film dosimeter may be useful.

For real-time readings, perhaps a scintillation counter would do it.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3000535/
(found with:
https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=xray+scintillation+dosimeter)

A Geiger Counter can also be used:

From:
https://www.nrc.gov/reading-rm/basic-ref/students/science-101/what-is-a-geiger-counter.html
Other types of instruments can provide an exposure rate (expressed as milliroentgen per hour or mR/hr). These counters must be calibrated to read a particular type of radiation (alpha, beta, gamma, neutron, x-ray) as well as the amount of energy emitted. The reading will only be accurate for that type of radiation and that energy level. And these instruments need to be calibrated regularly to be sure they are providing correct information over time.

Cheers,
Tom
 
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Hi Tom,

A Geiger counter can't work because a single beta particle would create one electrical pulse with a few microseconds dead time after and a 100ns criticality accident pulse of radiation would create one electrical pulse with a few microseconds dead time.

For a similar reason a commercial scintillation counter would also not work.
 
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An additional issue with GM counters is that if the pulse is intense enough (which it must be if it is only 10 nsec wide) the radiation may cause the detector to go into a continuous discharge and become unresponsive. An ionization chamber might be possible although ion recombination issues may still be associated with the high-intensity beams.
 
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