Best solution? for work done on a spring.

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The discussion revolves around calculating the work done on a spring given a force constant and displacement from its equilibrium position. The subject area includes concepts of elastic potential energy and spring forces.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster presents two methods for calculating work done on a spring, one based on energy change and the other on force and displacement. Participants question the validity of the second method due to the non-constant nature of the spring force during displacement.

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Participants are actively evaluating the two approaches, with some expressing confusion about the differences in results and the underlying concepts. Guidance has been offered regarding the nature of the spring force, indicating a productive exploration of the topic.

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There is an emphasis on understanding the concepts before applying calculus, and participants are seeking resources to clarify the behavior of spring forces at varying displacements.

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Homework Statement


GIVEN: Force constant (k) = 170N/m. Displaced 10cm (0.1m) from equilibrium position.
REQUIRED: Find the work done on the spring.


Homework Equations


Solution 1 uses: W = ΔE, & (elastic energy} Ee = 0.5(k)x2, where k is the constant, and x is displacement from equilibrium position.

Solution 2 uses: W = F(Δd), & (elastic/spring force} Fe = kx, where k is the constant, and x is the displacement from the equilibrium position.


The Attempt at a Solution


Please evaluate these solutions & choose the best. Please tell me why. Please correct my misunderstandings. Thanks!

SOLUTION 1.
w = ΔE
w = Eefinal - Eeinitial
w = 0.5(k)xfinal2 - 0 {because initial the spring is at the eq. position.)
w = 0.5(170N/m)(0.1m)2
w = 0.85J

SOLUTION 2.
w = F(Δd)
w = Fe(Δd)
w = kx(Δd)
w = (170N/m)(0.1m)(0.1m)
w = 1.7J


Which solution is better, and why? (It's obvious why the values are different.)
Please help me understand why/where these approaches are best. (I understand calculus, but I need to understand these concepts, before I use calculus to evaluate.)
 
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The second method is wrong, F is not constant during the displacement.
 
Thanks very much! ! !

Is there a resource you can point me to that explains why the force is not constant? Or, can you tell me why?

I'm not trying to be difficult, I just want to understand. I really want to be an engineer.
 
Is there a resource you can point me to that explains why the force is not constant? Or, can you tell me why?
Just check how you calculated the force at 10cm excitation. What is the force at an excitation of 5cm?
 
(elastic/spring force} Fe = kx, displacement x varies.Hence force is not constant
 

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