Best Theoretical Physics Masters Degree in Continental Europe

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The discussion centers around the search for a suitable Master's program in theoretical physics in continental Europe, with a focus on avoiding experimental courses. Participants share insights on various universities and programs, as well as the importance of collaboration between theorists and experimentalists.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Debate/contested
  • Technical explanation

Main Points Raised

  • The original poster is considering several Master's programs, including those at LMU Munich, TUM Munich, Utrecht University, ETH Zurich, ENS Paris, and a specific program in Condensed Matter Physics at TUM Munich.
  • Some participants argue that avoiding experimental courses may not be beneficial for a theoretical physicist, emphasizing the need to understand experimental methods and collaborate with experimentalists.
  • One participant highlights the advantages of being part of a large community in condensed matter physics, suggesting that collaboration with experimentalists is crucial for validating theoretical work.
  • The original poster expresses interest in the University of Dresden based on the community aspect and the advice received.
  • Another participant suggests considering the University of Heidelberg and the Max Planck Institute for Gravitational Physics as additional options not previously mentioned.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the importance of collaboration between theorists and experimentalists, but there is no consensus on the best Master's program or the necessity of including experimental courses in a theoretical physics curriculum.

Contextual Notes

Participants express varying opinions on the role of experimental knowledge in theoretical physics, indicating a lack of consensus on the best approach for a Master's program. The discussion also reflects uncertainty regarding the specific offerings and reputations of the mentioned universities.

Who May Find This Useful

Prospective Master's students in theoretical physics, particularly those interested in programs in continental Europe and the relationship between theory and experiment.

Smalde
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Dear All,

I am sorry if you consider this question to be repetitive or too general but I have been unable to find sufficient answers on the web and thus I want to see what I can win from asking you guys.

First my situation:

I finished my Physics' Bachelor in the LMU Munich with good grades, especially in the so-called theoretical courses. Now I am looking for a Masters in Physics for intake after this summer 2018 (i.e. September - October depending on the University). I am interested in theoretical physics and would like to avoid to the extent that it might be possible any experimental courses. Also, I did my Bachelor thesis in Condensed Matter Physics (Topological Insulators to be more precise) and I seem to like this area, so I am also considering focussing on Condensed Matter Physics. However, as any kid of my age, I am still very unsure as to where to actually head to (which area of physics, industry vs. academics, etc.) and would like a general theoretical physics 2-years program.

I have been doing some research on the web and in the moment I was considering applying to the following universities:

- LMU Munich + TUM Munich: Theoretical and Mathematical Physics TMP
- Utrecht University: Theoretical Physics Master
- ETH Zurich: (General) Physics Master
- ENS Paris: (General) Physics Master [-> Living in Paris makes this one very appealing, however, I am unsure about the actual program!]

Also I was considering to also apply to
- TUM Munich: Condensed Matter Physics Master
Since it is specific about Condensed Matter Physics.

So, my question is quite general: What can you guys tell me about these programs? Am I forgetting any other programs that might be interesting? Any information that you can provide me about any of these masters, or anything related would be very appreciated!
Pol
 
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Smalde said:
I am interested in theoretical physics and would like to avoid to the extent that it might be possible any experimental courses.

Far from being an experimentalist, the older I get, the less I think this is the right attitude.
If you are good at theory, theory is the easy part. You can get it from any book or article you like. What university can offer you is to see why and how experimentalists are doing certain experiments and where the limitations come from. As a theoretician, you will most probably cooperate with experimentalists and trying to explain their observations and try to propose new experiments. For a master, it would be best to make as many "praktikums" in different groups as possible.
 
I do condensed matter in Dresden and the community is very large, which is really good because then you have more topics, more people, more talks. I agree with DrDu. You need the experimentalists as much as they need you. If you disregard them, they will discard your work because important aspects of real systems are not considered. They will also not be very supportive if you want your theory validified. Many theoreticians develop programs for experimental data analysis, which gives them close collaboration with the small set of experimentalists that they need and also a lot of citations. Send me a pm in German if you have more detailed questions.
 
Thank you very much for your responses. I had certainly not thought about it that way. I guess if one does not know in detail about experimental methods it might be very difficult for one to discuss the way theory becomes experiment.
I will also look at the University in Dresden. :)

Still, does anyone know about the masters I listed above? Good things or bad things one has heard?

Thank you very much!
 
Hi, Smalde!

So, for which master program did you go for? Are you happy with your choice?

Regards,
Popov
 
The University of Heidelberg and the Max Planck Institute for Gravitational Physics (Postdam/Hannover) are top places you are currently not considering.
 

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