Best way to gain electronics knowledge? (for undergrad physics major)

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers on how an undergraduate physics major can effectively gain knowledge in electronics. Participants explore various resources, methods, and personal experiences related to learning electronics, including formal classes, self-study, and hands-on projects.

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  • Conceptual clarification
  • Debate/contested
  • Homework-related

Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests that programming, fabrication, and electronics are key skills sought by professors and REU programs, expressing a desire to learn electronics but uncertainty about where to start.
  • Another participant advises against using "The Art of Electronics" as a primary learning resource, recommending instead a sophomore-level EE class in circuits as foundational knowledge.
  • A different contributor shares their personal experience of learning electronics by experimenting with old electronics and building projects, emphasizing the value of troubleshooting.
  • Another participant mentions Sedra and Smith's Microelectronics as a potential resource, while also noting the importance of taking a circuit analysis class, especially for understanding analog electronics.
  • Online resources such as MIT's and Georgia Tech's course materials are suggested as helpful for self-study in circuits and electronics.
  • There is a note that EE courses may approach circuit analysis more rigorously than physics courses, which could affect understanding of analog electronics concepts.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of views on the best approach to learning electronics, with no clear consensus on a single method or resource. Some advocate for formal education, while others emphasize self-directed learning through projects.

Contextual Notes

Participants acknowledge the challenges of balancing coursework with learning new skills and the varying levels of rigor in different educational approaches to electronics.

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I see more and more that any professor or REU program wants one of three skills: programming (which I am in the process of obtaining), fabrication/machining/welding(which I know very well), or electronics knowledge, the latter which I do not have and have no idea even where to start.

I know there are kits and small hobby-type books available and I was considering this route but I don't know how well that will work. The book The Art of Electronics has been suggested but it is very painfully out of date with respect to digital electronics. I have enough classes on my plate with just physics, let alone finding the time to take weed-out electrical engineer courses. I have gone to the electronics shop on my campus and I think that would be the best place to learn but they said they currently do not need anyone but may in the summer. What else can I do? I want these skills, not just to woo professors to let me help with their projects, but also to add to my repertoire of technical knowledge. Any help or advice is appreciated.
 
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first, don't read "the art of electronics". that is not meant to be a reading/learning book, it's a reference book.

my first guess was to recommend an EE sophomore level class in circuits. that class would be the backbone of anything you want to learn about in electronics.
but you don't seem to want to do that...

all i can recommend is to try and build things on your own. try building a clock with AC or something. there are plenty of projects that need can be build in a hobby setting, so have at it.
oh, and there is a student manual for the art of electronics. you could try running through that. we used that for my semester course on electronics.
 
Here's what I did, I bought a couple electronics books from the thrift store (any I could find) and also picked up some old electronics. Radios, little toys with motors, etc. I just played around with them and made little circuits. After I felt more comfortable with those things I bought a programmable robot which is my current project.

The robot is light years beyond the thrift store gadgets but I did learn a lot from those toys especially about troubleshooting. You can imagine that most of those ragged old electronics didn't work when I bought so I had to figure out why, haha. Good luck.
 
Sedra and Smith's Microelectronics Books is alright, though it can be as large and difficult to read as the Art of Electronics due to the sheer bulk of the thing. Most physics degrees have rooms for non-physics electives, I would take at least circuit analysis in the EE department though a lot of it is analog however, logic/digital design is a whole other class of a different type than circuits and analog electronics. You could probably pick a lot of it up on your own like people pick up programming and statistics looking through books and building projects but a class and an accessible circuits lab makes the process easier especially with such a broad field.

Lots of schools have their lectures and course material online, MIT for instance has a combined circuits and electronics course in their EE department available through opencourseware:

http://ocw.mit.edu/courses/electric...e/6-002-circuits-and-electronics-spring-2007/

I also found Georgia Tech's Microelectronics courses very helpful in my own run of circuits and electronics:

http://users.ece.gatech.edu/mleach/ece3050/

http://users.ece.gatech.edu/mleach/ece3040/

Keep in mind EE's perform circuit analysis in a far more rigorous way than when you saw it in Physics II and that knowledge is assumed when you look at analog electronics dealing with op amps and transistors and such. Good luck.
 

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